Friend needs help with tank ,ready to throw in the towel! - Page 2

poolkeeper1 · 03/17/2010, 09:50 PM

To be honest If he dosen't want to spend the money for a Koralia then maybe he should get out of the hobby, As It Is an exspensive hobby to be sucessful at and If you can't justify a pewerhead that Is dirt cheap. I say get a Goldfish! JMHO
Bill

tkeracer619 · 03/17/2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfisher62

Any suggestions??????

Does he have the internet? Usually trying to help a friend who doesn't research on their own doesn't end well.

langtudatinh01 · 03/17/2010, 10:06 PM

yes, i would say more flow like everyone else. you have mentioned he changes the water with RO/DI. do you know how old is the filter media? did he ever replace the filter? when he change the water, did he move the tube around the tank or just one spot? if only one spot i don't think he takes out enough old water. Just my 02 cents.

steelhead77 · 03/17/2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by langtudatinh01

when he change the water, did he move the tube around the tank or just one spot? if only one spot i don't think he takes out enough old water. Just my 02 cents.

What?? Are you saying that moving the siphon hose around the tank will remove more "old water" than keeping it in one place? So If I put the hose on the bottom of the tank, I'll only remove "bottom water"? I think you'll remove the same amount of "old water" no matter where the hose is.

Metal Man 1221 · 03/17/2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by steelhead77

What?? Are you saying that moving the siphon hose around the tank will remove more "old water" than keeping it in one place? So If I put the hose on the bottom of the tank, I'll only remove "bottom water"? I think you'll remove the same amount of "old water" no matter where the hose is.

that would make sense however with as little flow as the tank has, there might be areas with more unwanted nutrients, but its quite unlikly on such a small scale

IME diatoms and detritus are best removed via skimmer and filter floss, when i purchased my current tank used, i didnt understand why cleaning the sand was so important, untill i added the sand and began filling, i stopped at about half full and ran the skimmer andfilter floss on the skimmer output for a few days switching the floss every time flow got too restricted,

but honestly it sounds like your buddys tank has little to no form of nutrient export, any way to pull the nutrients out will improve the tanks condition
and of course increasing circulation

langtudatinh01 · 03/17/2010, 10:59 PM

there are little of movement in the tank. if you are not moving around when you do water change try to vacumm some of the rock pockets where there are a lot of stuffs just sitting around. that with water change together might help. putting the hose in one spot will remove the water yes, temporary because all the trash still there. they are not floating around in the tank too much.

kingfisher62 · 03/18/2010, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man 1221

but honestly it sounds like your buddys tank has little to no form of nutrient export, any way to pull the nutrients out will improve the tanks condition
and of course increasing circulation

Your right, but I did get him to purchase some chaeto when we hit that new reef place. He has no refugium but I told him to put it in his display tank in hope to get some sort of export going on.

kingfisher62 · 03/18/2010, 06:01 AM

BTW, I just want to thank everyone on their feedback to help me troubleshoot this tanks issues. Different point of views are always helpful.

All__talk · 03/18/2010, 08:29 AM

Sounds like it might be dinoflagellates, check this thread...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1619925

I'm battling the dinos right now myself, and seem to be winning. My original post is here...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=16711463

And some follow up here...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1815351

Gary

lostintheocean · 03/18/2010, 09:31 AM

curious why he doesnt make a post or seek answers himself, it would be easier first hand

paja4 · 03/18/2010, 11:19 AM

Make sure he is using good Ro/Di water, try cutting back the lighting period for a little bit, and lastly invest in a good number of hermits, snails.

tkeracer619 · 03/18/2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lostintheocean

curious why he doesnt make a post or seek answers himself, it would be easier first hand

I tried to do this for a friend and ended up 1 less friend. Eventually my answers were not good enough for him. He wanted the tank to be as easy to run as mine was to look at. It could be totally different but over 6 months a 5 year friendship was lost in my scenario... unfortunate and out of my control. Should have never helped set up a tank for him until he proved he was willing to learn what to do not be told what to do.

03/17/2010, 10:06 PM	#28
langtudatinh01 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 399	yes, i would say more flow like everyone else. you have mentioned he changes the water with RO/DI. do you know how old is the filter media? did he ever replace the filter? when he change the water, did he move the tube around the tank or just one spot? if only one spot i don't think he takes out enough old water. Just my 02 cents. __________________ Tuanito Tranito Current Tank Info: my little heaven: 40 Breeder nano reeftank (1 year old-refugium/sump 20 gallons)

03/17/2010, 10:59 PM	#31
langtudatinh01 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 399	there are little of movement in the tank. if you are not moving around when you do water change try to vacumm some of the rock pockets where there are a lot of stuffs just sitting around. that with water change together might help. putting the hose in one spot will remove the water yes, temporary because all the trash still there. they are not floating around in the tank too much. __________________ Tuanito Tranito Current Tank Info: my little heaven: 40 Breeder nano reeftank (1 year old-refugium/sump 20 gallons)

03/18/2010, 06:01 AM	#33
kingfisher62 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: massachusetts Posts: 4,972	BTW, I just want to thank everyone on their feedback to help me troubleshoot this tanks issues. Different point of views are always helpful. __________________ 55g Tank - 216W T5's Foxface, tomato clown, yellow tailed damsel, Starrie Blennie, LPS and softies 29G Biocube- 120W LED's 2 percular clown, Six line Wrasse , LPS and softies Current Tank Info: 55 gl. Reef tank ,29g biocube Reef

03/18/2010, 08:29 AM	#34
All__talk Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thorp, WA Posts: 124	Sounds like it might be dinoflagellates, check this thread... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1619925 I'm battling the dinos right now myself, and seem to be winning. My original post is here... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=16711463 And some follow up here... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1815351 Gary __________________ One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish Current Tank Info: 46G Bowfront

03/17/2010, 09:50 PM	#26
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	To be honest If he dosen't want to spend the money for a Koralia then maybe he should get out of the hobby, As It Is an exspensive hobby to be sucessful at and If you can't justify a pewerhead that Is dirt cheap. I say get a Goldfish! JMHO Bill

03/18/2010, 09:31 AM	#35
lostintheocean Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: deep blue Posts: 467	curious why he doesnt make a post or seek answers himself, it would be easier first hand

03/18/2010, 11:19 AM	#36
paja4 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 75	Make sure he is using good Ro/Di water, try cutting back the lighting period for a little bit, and lastly invest in a good number of hermits, snails.