NEED HELP PLZ My SNAILS KEEP DYING

biglouie · 04/15/2010, 06:52 PM

i have had my tank set up for a little over 3 yrs and have to replace snails like anyone else but now when i added 5 turbos a month ago they were all dead in a few days then i tried 2 more from another petstore and they died in a few days. i started to think what i was doing different and the only thing is dose alot of Mag it may have been to high so i didnt add for a couple week and bought 2 turbos to try it out today and there already acting bad...can to much Mag kill them? PLZ HELP SOMEONE you all have always been great help

Grant W · 04/15/2010, 06:54 PM

I have noticed that alk issues usually affect the inverts first. I would start there

biglouie · 04/15/2010, 06:58 PM

yeah im gonna try to use a dkh buffer that sould straightin my alk up thks maybe it will work

biglouie · 04/15/2010, 07:03 PM

any other ideas anyone b/c my clam is doing great and its an invert

Dadekster · 04/15/2010, 07:19 PM

From what I understand it can take a couple of days for something like a snail to die. That said, if the LFS doesn't aclimate them correctly and you buy them shortly thereafter no matter what you do they may die anyways. Just something I like to keep in mind. They are sensitive animals and who knows how many times they have had water parameters shifted on them before you get them. I mean of course make sure it isn't something on your end, but sometimes even in a perfect tank newly added inverts can easily die.

seaflea · 04/15/2010, 08:08 PM

is there enough food for the turbos? they eat alot..i just noticed my 2 turbos have pretty much eattin all the algae in my 120 so i folded up a half sheet of nori and magneted it near the bottom. its pretty much gone now..took em about an hour

sbaddley · 04/15/2010, 08:25 PM

Aclimation was my fist thought.

prickles · 04/15/2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by biglouie

can to much Mag kill them?

Yes. It will paralyze them and they will die. I have done this. There is a fancy term I can't remember. To prove it to yourself, do a waterchange maybe 30% with instant ocean or something low mag. They will perk up almost immediately unless your mag is ridiculously high. Get your mag to 1200, and they will be happy. You will need to find the happy medium between 1200 and 1400 for your snails to live so raise it slow from there.

mattsummers · 04/15/2010, 08:56 PM

do you have a grounding rod, low voltage will wipe out snails

prickles · 04/15/2010, 08:59 PM

If you read the first few pages of "Finally a solution to bryopsis" thread, many people mention the mg killing/paralyzing their snails.

TheWeaz · 04/15/2010, 09:10 PM

maybe salinity spike?

biglouie · 04/16/2010, 12:37 PM

thk u all me and my snails apprieciate the help. i think ive come to the conclusion that its my mag now i need to figure out a way to lower it

fmelindy · 04/16/2010, 02:23 PM

I had a similar thing happening when I was dosing kalk, and when I went back to two-part it stopped. Maybe it was an alk/pH issue. Everything else stayed the same but I lost a lot of snails during that period. Maybe the alk/pH was spiking too quickly when I was dosing the kalk?

borcu · 04/16/2010, 04:06 PM

yep high Mag could be the issue esp. above 1500.

04/15/2010, 06:52 PM	#1
biglouie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 31	NEED HELP PLZ My SNAILS KEEP DYING i have had my tank set up for a little over 3 yrs and have to replace snails like anyone else but now when i added 5 turbos a month ago they were all dead in a few days then i tried 2 more from another petstore and they died in a few days. i started to think what i was doing different and the only thing is dose alot of Mag it may have been to high so i didnt add for a couple week and bought 2 turbos to try it out today and there already acting bad...can to much Mag kill them? PLZ HELP SOMEONE you all have always been great help

04/15/2010, 06:54 PM	#2
Grant W Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Petaluma,Ca Posts: 2,840	I have noticed that alk issues usually affect the inverts first. I would start there __________________ Really honey, I'm not going to buy anything at the fish store I'm just going to have a look. The Other Pres. at Wine Country Reefers. Current Tank Info: 120 gallon SPS dominant tank, custom lighting, etc, etc

04/15/2010, 09:10 PM	#11
TheWeaz Beer Snob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 620	maybe salinity spike? __________________ ~The Weaz Current Tank Info: Leemar 100g

04/15/2010, 06:58 PM	#3
biglouie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 31	yeah im gonna try to use a dkh buffer that sould straightin my alk up thks maybe it will work

04/15/2010, 07:03 PM	#4
biglouie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 31	any other ideas anyone b/c my clam is doing great and its an invert

04/15/2010, 07:19 PM	#5
Dadekster Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 356	From what I understand it can take a couple of days for something like a snail to die. That said, if the LFS doesn't aclimate them correctly and you buy them shortly thereafter no matter what you do they may die anyways. Just something I like to keep in mind. They are sensitive animals and who knows how many times they have had water parameters shifted on them before you get them. I mean of course make sure it isn't something on your end, but sometimes even in a perfect tank newly added inverts can easily die.

04/15/2010, 08:08 PM	#6
seaflea Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 31	is there enough food for the turbos? they eat alot..i just noticed my 2 turbos have pretty much eattin all the algae in my 120 so i folded up a half sheet of nori and magneted it near the bottom. its pretty much gone now..took em about an hour

04/15/2010, 08:25 PM	#7
sbaddley Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Smithfield, UT Posts: 86	Aclimation was my fist thought.

04/15/2010, 08:56 PM	#9
mattsummers Moved On Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tucson Posts: 164	do you have a grounding rod, low voltage will wipe out snails

04/15/2010, 08:59 PM	#10
prickles Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 1,138	If you read the first few pages of "Finally a solution to bryopsis" thread, many people mention the mg killing/paralyzing their snails.

04/16/2010, 12:37 PM	#12
biglouie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 31	thk u all me and my snails apprieciate the help. i think ive come to the conclusion that its my mag now i need to figure out a way to lower it

04/16/2010, 02:23 PM	#13
fmelindy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. John's, NL, Canada Posts: 116	I had a similar thing happening when I was dosing kalk, and when I went back to two-part it stopped. Maybe it was an alk/pH issue. Everything else stayed the same but I lost a lot of snails during that period. Maybe the alk/pH was spiking too quickly when I was dosing the kalk?

04/16/2010, 04:06 PM	#14
borcu bordox Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 315	yep high Mag could be the issue esp. above 1500.