garlic guard or garlic Xtreme?

dviper150 · 04/21/2010, 12:39 AM

I wanted to get some more garlic since the one I have now is almost finished. Which one is better? I am assuming garlic Xtreme because a 1 oz bottle is 8$ and a 17oz garlic guard is 11$. Does is matter which one I get?

Michael · 04/21/2010, 03:32 AM

personally i wouldnt use either, keep it natural imo.

mike

larry joe · 04/21/2010, 08:39 AM

Your wasting time .Some guy did a controlled study and garlic ruins your fishes liver.Theres a link somewhere on it.Your LFS might be like mine and just want to make a sell.Check with these experienced guys here first and read alot.

dviper150 · 04/21/2010, 08:40 AM

I also read that it helps fight off infections and ich. I have been using garlic for the past 4 months without any problems.

thebkramer · 04/21/2010, 10:28 AM

SAVE your money!

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php

dviper150 · 04/21/2010, 11:02 AM

I don't know how other people get results from using garlic but I went selcon because I haven't tried that before and wanted to see if it can help fatten my fish.

returnofsid · 04/21/2010, 12:03 PM

You've been supplied one link already, and I can supply you several others, if you want. Garlic has absolutely NO beneficial properties, in Marine Fish, AND causes liver damage. The use of Garlic is a myth, propogated from the Freshwater hobby. It has shown to benefit freshwater fish, but NOT Marine Fish.

It is NOT an immune booster.
It does NOT increase appetite.
It DOES cause liver damage.

One study shows that garlic 'may' slow down an Ich infestation, ONLY because the Ich parasite uses smell to locate fish, and the garlic 'may' mask the fish's smell.

Michael · 04/21/2010, 01:21 PM

yep from my findings and involment in dissussions i 100 % agree with sid.

kimber45 · 04/21/2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by returnofsid

It does NOT increase appetite.

well that's not so much true.

garlic was the only way i could get a picky eater to frozen/dry.

for that it is helpful.

returnofsid · 04/21/2010, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimber45

well that's not so much true.

garlic was the only way i could get a picky eater to frozen/dry.

for that it is helpful.

Okay, I'll rephrase.

Garlic isn't proven to regularly enhance appetite. With some fish, sometimes, it seems to maybe get them to eat, when they won't eat anything else. Other times, garlic doesn't seem to make any difference.

I think I'd rather have to work harder to get a fish to eat, than feed it something, that will cause liver damage, to get it to eat easier and quicker.

04/21/2010, 12:39 AM	#1
dviper150 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 2,799	garlic guard or garlic Xtreme? I wanted to get some more garlic since the one I have now is almost finished. Which one is better? I am assuming garlic Xtreme because a 1 oz bottle is 8$ and a 17oz garlic guard is 11$. Does is matter which one I get? __________________ When in doubt, always have a way out.

04/21/2010, 03:32 AM	#2
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	personally i wouldnt use either, keep it natural imo. mike __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

04/21/2010, 08:40 AM	#4
dviper150 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 2,799	I also read that it helps fight off infections and ich. I have been using garlic for the past 4 months without any problems. __________________ When in doubt, always have a way out.

04/21/2010, 10:28 AM	#5
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	SAVE your money! http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

04/21/2010, 11:02 AM	#6
dviper150 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 2,799	I don't know how other people get results from using garlic but I went selcon because I haven't tried that before and wanted to see if it can help fatten my fish. __________________ When in doubt, always have a way out.

04/21/2010, 08:39 AM	#3
larry joe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 66	Your wasting time .Some guy did a controlled study and garlic ruins your fishes liver.Theres a link somewhere on it.Your LFS might be like mine and just want to make a sell.Check with these experienced guys here first and read alot.

04/21/2010, 12:03 PM	#7
returnofsid Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,852	You've been supplied one link already, and I can supply you several others, if you want. Garlic has absolutely NO beneficial properties, in Marine Fish, AND causes liver damage. The use of Garlic is a myth, propogated from the Freshwater hobby. It has shown to benefit freshwater fish, but NOT Marine Fish. It is NOT an immune booster. It does NOT increase appetite. It DOES cause liver damage. One study shows that garlic 'may' slow down an Ich infestation, ONLY because the Ich parasite uses smell to locate fish, and the garlic 'may' mask the fish's smell.

04/21/2010, 01:21 PM	#8
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	yep from my findings and involment in dissussions i 100 % agree with sid. __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

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