silicone did i mess up????? - Page 2

j.p. harrington · 04/21/2010, 10:37 PM

ok i think i need to mention that this is just holding baffles not the thank together so the strenght i wouldnt think is a huge factor.

but with that said i think ill look into the rtv 108 just for aquarium safe purpose.

where/how do i get it?

uncleof6 · 04/21/2010, 11:30 PM

Friendly neighborhood Grainger will have it. It is ~10 bucks a tube. Good luck with your baffles. Incidentally, baffles do need structural support: despite what some might say, an adhesive is still called for. Granted, the strength of RTV100 series is not absolutely necessary, and the two DC products would work for this, but I use the RTV for everything. The RTV skins over fairly quickly, so you don't have a lot of time to mess with it. Lower ambient temp and humidity will give you some wiggle room.

Jim

j.p. harrington · 04/25/2010, 09:51 PM

ok well i went to my lfs today and bought a 30 gallon which is just 1 gallon bugger than my 29 gallon sump but its 6" longer which gives me more room for my fuge area and will be able to hold abou a gallon more in my return pump area.

but anyways the point is i got some AGA silicone cost me bout 20 bucks but i know for a fact that it is tank safe since its what they use to build em

jchase1970 · 04/26/2010, 09:02 PM

I was always told to use anything that says 100% silicone. If you want to see the difference get lowes to give you a copy of the MSDS sheet for both and compare. they should have them in the contractor sales area.

found msds for silicone 2 online but am having problems finding it online for silicone 1

this is what is in silicone 2
Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Hexamethyldisilazane 000999-97-3 1-5
Methyltrimethoxysilane 001185-55-3 1-5
Polydimethylsiloxanes (Silicon oil) 063148-62-9 10-30
Methyldimethoxy polydime-siloxane 068037-58-1 60-80
Silanol/Siloxane polymers 068554-67-6 1-5
Octamethylcyclotetrasiloxane, silica reaction product 068583-49-3 10-30

Blakeup295 · 04/26/2010, 10:14 PM

hey man i just did this like on thrusday BIG MISTAKE everything in my tank exp the fish are slowly dieing most allready did im trying to keep my last buttens and torch coral alive and only reason my fish r living is couse there so hardy from all my trail and error ive been doing since i started the tank switch to ge 1 asap and make sure get all ge2 out

jchase1970 · 04/27/2010, 02:00 PM

blake, what did you do thursday? did you use silicone in a tank with water and livestock in it? I think uncured silicone in a tank would be like adding any other type of chemical to the tank.

Blakeup295 · 04/27/2010, 04:55 PM

no i used it into my sump for the baffles and even let it dry for almost 2 days then ran water into it then into tank within 2 hours stuff started to look really bad so i stopped the sump and did some extra research and realized what i did, ive already done all i can and lost a lot of stuff and rebuildt sump just scraped off the silicone with a razor blade and redid it all then let dry again then started pumping everything looks fine with ge1 (DONT USE GE2!)

DON CORALEON · 04/27/2010, 05:10 PM

So which is the anti microbial type 1 or 2?

04/21/2010, 10:37 PM	#26
j.p. harrington Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NORTH CAROLINA Posts: 411	ok i think i need to mention that this is just holding baffles not the thank together so the strenght i wouldnt think is a huge factor. but with that said i think ill look into the rtv 108 just for aquarium safe purpose. where/how do i get it? __________________ j.p. harrington #41 Current Tank Info: 75gal MIXED REEF. working on 10-20gallon nano

04/21/2010, 11:30 PM	#27
uncleof6 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: AWOL Posts: 12,013	Friendly neighborhood Grainger will have it. It is ~10 bucks a tube. Good luck with your baffles. Incidentally, baffles do need structural support: despite what some might say, an adhesive is still called for. Granted, the strength of RTV100 series is not absolutely necessary, and the two DC products would work for this, but I use the RTV for everything. The RTV skins over fairly quickly, so you don't have a lot of time to mess with it. Lower ambient temp and humidity will give you some wiggle room. Jim __________________ "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." (oft attributed to Einstein; most likely paraphrasing by Roger Sessions; compactly articulates the principle of Occam's Razor) Current Tank Info: 325 6' wide Reef

04/25/2010, 09:51 PM	#28
j.p. harrington Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NORTH CAROLINA Posts: 411	ok well i went to my lfs today and bought a 30 gallon which is just 1 gallon bugger than my 29 gallon sump but its 6" longer which gives me more room for my fuge area and will be able to hold abou a gallon more in my return pump area. but anyways the point is i got some AGA silicone cost me bout 20 bucks but i know for a fact that it is tank safe since its what they use to build em __________________ j.p. harrington #41 Current Tank Info: 75gal MIXED REEF. working on 10-20gallon nano

04/26/2010, 09:02 PM	#29
jchase1970 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newburgh, Indiana Posts: 409	I was always told to use anything that says 100% silicone. If you want to see the difference get lowes to give you a copy of the MSDS sheet for both and compare. they should have them in the contractor sales area. found msds for silicone 2 online but am having problems finding it online for silicone 1 this is what is in silicone 2 Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent Hexamethyldisilazane 000999-97-3 1-5 Methyltrimethoxysilane 001185-55-3 1-5 Polydimethylsiloxanes (Silicon oil) 063148-62-9 10-30 Methyldimethoxy polydime-siloxane 068037-58-1 60-80 Silanol/Siloxane polymers 068554-67-6 1-5 Octamethylcyclotetrasiloxane, silica reaction product 068583-49-3 10-30 __________________ Tri-State Reef Club Serving the Indiana,Kentucky,Illinois Tri state area.

04/26/2010, 10:14 PM	#30
Blakeup295 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: walnut creek Posts: 437	hey man i just did this like on thrusday BIG MISTAKE everything in my tank exp the fish are slowly dieing most allready did im trying to keep my last buttens and torch coral alive and only reason my fish r living is couse there so hardy from all my trail and error ive been doing since i started the tank switch to ge 1 asap and make sure get all ge2 out __________________ ~sit back relax and enjoy the ride~ Current Tank Info: 120 gal reef, with a 55 gallon sump. 400W MH soft coral and fish.

04/27/2010, 02:00 PM	#31
jchase1970 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Newburgh, Indiana Posts: 409	blake, what did you do thursday? did you use silicone in a tank with water and livestock in it? I think uncured silicone in a tank would be like adding any other type of chemical to the tank. __________________ Tri-State Reef Club Serving the Indiana,Kentucky,Illinois Tri state area.

04/27/2010, 04:55 PM	#32
Blakeup295 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: walnut creek Posts: 437	no i used it into my sump for the baffles and even let it dry for almost 2 days then ran water into it then into tank within 2 hours stuff started to look really bad so i stopped the sump and did some extra research and realized what i did, ive already done all i can and lost a lot of stuff and rebuildt sump just scraped off the silicone with a razor blade and redid it all then let dry again then started pumping everything looks fine with ge1 (DONT USE GE2!) __________________ ~sit back relax and enjoy the ride~ Current Tank Info: 120 gal reef, with a 55 gallon sump. 400W MH soft coral and fish.

04/27/2010, 05:10 PM	#33
DON CORALEON Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kansas city Posts: 65	So which is the anti microbial type 1 or 2?

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