sicce red devil / red demon

jcato · 04/14/2010, 03:13 PM

are theses the same needle wheel?

thanks john

Warner Marine Red Demon Pinwheel Impeller

http://premiumaquatics.com/store/mer...y_Code=oct-ext

AquaMaxx Large Red Devil Needle Wheel

http://www.marinedepot.com/AquaMaxx_...WPSBRP-vi.html

solitude127 · 04/14/2010, 04:16 PM

probably. Just like everything else, once once gets a good design it gets copied. I personally wouldn't buy the knockoff.

jcato · 04/20/2010, 08:43 AM

I got the AquaMaxx Large Red Devil Needle Wheel in the mail today and here are some pics compared to the standard needle wheel.

will update once i get it on the skimmer.

sorry for the crappy cell phone pics

john

syrss · 04/28/2010, 02:03 PM

any updates?

jcato · 04/29/2010, 06:09 AM

the red devil is a big improvement over the stock wheel, i would say that it max'd out the body/neck of my skimmer and is well worth the money.. but the biggest improvement i made was when i was changing out the the needle wheel i broke my ceramic shaft and i replaced it with a .125 carbon fiber rod and now my pump is silent.

john

SWINGRRRR · 04/29/2010, 06:28 AM

I switched to the aquamaxx PW and volute on my Mini S. After the swap, the water level in my skimmer section dropped about 1". I had water flowing backwards!! My skimmer was only 2 days old so it was still breaking in. I moved my outlet to the same section to level the water back out.
By my highly calibrated eye, I can see that my buble chamber is packed full from top to bottom, not only half way like last with the stock stuff.
It was a great swap for $40 or so.

mfinn · 04/29/2010, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcato

but the biggest improvement i made was when i was changing out the the needle wheel i broke my ceramic shaft and i replaced it with a .125 carbon fiber rod and now my pump is silent.

john

was this something that could be ordered, or was it something you bought and made yourself?

jcato · 04/29/2010, 08:24 AM

When i broke the shaft i paniced and ordered a shaft from http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html but later realized that most hobby stores carry the CF rods. i got 2 rods that are about 18" long from the hobby store for $7 and cut them to the same length as the ceramic shaft.

just make sure they are the solid rods and not the tube type.

john

mfinn · 04/29/2010, 08:53 AM

cool, thanks.

mikid · 04/29/2010, 10:28 AM

sorry about the pm,didnt read through the thread,thanks for the input on the rod upgrade....mike

solitude127 · 04/29/2010, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcato

When i broke the shaft i paniced and ordered a shaft from http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html but later realized that most hobby stores carry the CF rods. i got 2 rods that are about 18" long from the hobby store for $7 and cut them to the same length as the ceramic shaft.

just make sure they are the solid rods and not the tube type.

john

John,
How loud was your skimmer before? What can you compare the noise too? I have WM K2 that uses the same pump and would like to get it a little quieter. I'm wondering if the rod would make that big of a difference. thanks

jcato · 04/30/2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

John,
How loud was your skimmer before? What can you compare the noise too? I have WM K2 that uses the same pump and would like to get it a little quieter. I'm wondering if the rod would make that big of a difference. thanks

there was always a grinding/clacking noise.. now there is just a very light hum. the water exiting the skimmer is louder than the pump.

john

mfinn · 05/03/2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcato

i replaced it with a .125 carbon fiber rod and now my pump is silent.

john

I found some .125 carbon fiber rod at a hobby shop, but it is smaller in dia. than the ceramic shaft.
Was your ceramic shaft and the carbon fiber shaft the exact same dia.?

jcato · 05/03/2010, 06:07 PM

no it was a tad smaller, even the one marine soultions sent me was the .125 . all is still working great and silent.

john

mfinn · 05/03/2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcato

no it was a tad smaller, even the one marine soultions sent me was the .125 . all is still working great and silent.

john

thanks

kc350twin · 05/03/2010, 06:46 PM

Nice. I just ordered a new shaft and I could have picked one up.

What was the length of the stock shaft?

Kc3

jcato · 05/03/2010, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc350twin

Nice. I just ordered a new shaft and I could have picked one up.

What was the length of the stock shaft?

Kc3

i just put the broke shaft next to the rod and marked it. the one Marine Solutions sent me is 3 9/16 inches long.

john

04/14/2010, 03:13 PM	#1
jcato Reef Junkie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 693	sicce red devil / red demon are theses the same needle wheel? thanks john Warner Marine Red Demon Pinwheel Impeller http://premiumaquatics.com/store/mer...y_Code=oct-ext AquaMaxx Large Red Devil Needle Wheel http://www.marinedepot.com/AquaMaxx_...WPSBRP-vi.html __________________ "What is understood does'nt need to be discussed" Current Tank Info: 60g Cube Soft Coral Reef

04/14/2010, 04:16 PM	#2
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	probably. Just like everything else, once once gets a good design it gets copied. I personally wouldn't buy the knockoff. __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

04/20/2010, 08:43 AM	#3
jcato Reef Junkie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 693	I got the AquaMaxx Large Red Devil Needle Wheel in the mail today and here are some pics compared to the standard needle wheel. will update once i get it on the skimmer. sorry for the crappy cell phone pics john __________________ "What is understood does'nt need to be discussed" Current Tank Info: 60g Cube Soft Coral Reef

04/29/2010, 06:09 AM	#5
jcato Reef Junkie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 693	the red devil is a big improvement over the stock wheel, i would say that it max'd out the body/neck of my skimmer and is well worth the money.. but the biggest improvement i made was when i was changing out the the needle wheel i broke my ceramic shaft and i replaced it with a .125 carbon fiber rod and now my pump is silent. john __________________ "What is understood does'nt need to be discussed" Current Tank Info: 60g Cube Soft Coral Reef

04/29/2010, 06:28 AM	#6
SWINGRRRR Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pcola FL Posts: 2,504	I switched to the aquamaxx PW and volute on my Mini S. After the swap, the water level in my skimmer section dropped about 1". I had water flowing backwards!! My skimmer was only 2 days old so it was still breaking in. I moved my outlet to the same section to level the water back out. By my highly calibrated eye, I can see that my buble chamber is packed full from top to bottom, not only half way like last with the stock stuff. It was a great swap for $40 or so. __________________ Have you ever tried to hold a monkey still if it is not drunk ~ insteng Current Tank Info: 45gal Rimless mixed reef--SWC 150BMK--2xMP10ESW--Giesemann 150W HQI

04/28/2010, 02:03 PM	#4
syrss Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: RSM, OC Posts: 170	any updates?

04/29/2010, 08:24 AM	#8
jcato Reef Junkie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 693	When i broke the shaft i paniced and ordered a shaft from http://www.marinesolutionsinc.com/ca...duct_info.html but later realized that most hobby stores carry the CF rods. i got 2 rods that are about 18" long from the hobby store for $7 and cut them to the same length as the ceramic shaft. just make sure they are the solid rods and not the tube type. john __________________ "What is understood does'nt need to be discussed" Current Tank Info: 60g Cube Soft Coral Reef

04/29/2010, 08:53 AM	#9
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	cool, thanks. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

04/29/2010, 10:28 AM	#10
mikid Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: fair oaks,california Posts: 1,767	rod sorry about the pm,didnt read through the thread,thanks for the input on the rod upgrade....mike __________________ Mike Dickenson....Marine Aquarist Roundtable of Sacramento, Co-Founder Current Tank Info: 187 Gal Display/125 Gal sump/Reefkeeper Elite/Rw20s/Leds

05/03/2010, 06:07 PM	#14
jcato Reef Junkie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Arkansas Posts: 693	no it was a tad smaller, even the one marine soultions sent me was the .125 . all is still working great and silent. john __________________ "What is understood does'nt need to be discussed" Current Tank Info: 60g Cube Soft Coral Reef

05/03/2010, 06:46 PM	#16
kc350twin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Severn, MD Posts: 1,579	Nice. I just ordered a new shaft and I could have picked one up. What was the length of the stock shaft? Kc3 __________________ 112g Cube 36x36x20= Custom 12x39wPower Module (Par Monster)= Neptune Apex=ATB 840v2=BM Doser= 2 MP-40's