GE Silicone II Kitchen & Bath?

justin1977justi · 05/11/2006, 09:13 AM

I was at Lowe's and the only clear silicone they had was the GE Silicone II Kitchen & Bath. What are the effects of using this for installing baffles in 150g FOWLR? Also, if the reason for not using it is because it leaches out, how long would it take for it to leach all of the bad stuff out?

Travis L. Stevens · 05/11/2006, 09:18 AM

I'm not sure, but you have to make sure that it is NOT mildew resistant. Personally, I use GE Silicon 1 Window and Door.

dwdenny · 05/11/2006, 09:26 AM

I have used both I and II but make sure that it is for windows and doors as the kitchens and bathrooms ahve the mold inhibitors and could effect your critters.

justin1977justi · 05/11/2006, 09:35 AM

That's what I am wondering. What effects would there be?

Ti · 05/11/2006, 09:52 AM

mildew inhibitor is antibacterial.
It'll wipe out your beneficial bacteria.

justin1977justi · 05/11/2006, 10:03 AM

It is only meant to keep the mildew out of the silicone. Is there really enough to kill all of the bacteria in a tank with a total volume of about 200 gallons?

Ti · 05/11/2006, 10:11 AM

According to some people it is fine once it cures.
Also if that is the only silicone that LOWES had, then that is a horrible LOWES.
Try Home Depot.

dwdenny · 05/11/2006, 10:12 AM

Not sure but that is something that I wouldn't risk anyway. The GE I windows and doors is only like $4 a tube the GEII W & D is $6. Piece of mind is worth a lot more. the 4 or 6 bucks.

cmoresps · 05/12/2006, 12:30 AM

well, I used a good amount of silicone 2 (windows and doors) on a large system and for the past month I have been getting readings of trace .025 trite (salifert) in an established system I added on to, not enough to effect most corals but sps arent happy. Be safe and go with silicone 1 or spend the money on 'aquarium" sealant

cmoresps · 05/12/2006, 12:31 AM

ps I used 6 tubes of it, now have to break the expansion tanks down and redo it

UCanDoIt · 05/12/2006, 02:04 AM

If you're planning to use a lot, here's a good price on aquarium silicone glue at petscentral:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7755979366

I only use the GE brand for sealing windows, doors and the inside bottom edges of my aquarium stand.

Blown 346 · 05/12/2006, 03:14 AM

I used GE silicon II windows and doors for my sump and have had no problems. My SPS, LPS are doing just fine.

Blown 346 · 05/12/2006, 03:20 AM

Read this thread, this should clear some stuff up.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=841449

cmoresps · 05/12/2006, 01:09 PM

Hmm, looks like it could be an issue with batches or the amount you use. Silicone I is the safe bet

chisel · 05/16/2006, 08:08 AM

I have found that the aquarium silicone is kept by the glues in lowes, I also saw some stuff that is made by goop that was specific to aquarium type applications, and was quick drying. I haven't been in the hobby that long to know the difference, so I wouldn't chance it with anything other than 100% pure silicone.

purza_00 · 05/16/2006, 07:34 PM

I used the window and doors silicone II on 4 baffles in a 20g long sump. My tank went south in less than two days. Lost xenia and yellow tang. Coral Beauty in real bad shape. I can't prove that pvc or acrylic wasn't source of contamination.

CiclidGuy · 05/06/2010, 11:39 AM

why do people insist on using GE Silicone cause its cheap??? i take no chances when it comes to aquriums! too much time and money invested!!! invest the extra cash and buy stuff that is clearly marked aqurium safe!!!

CiclidGuy · 05/06/2010, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purza_00

I used the window and doors silicone II on 4 baffles in a 20g long sump. My tank went south in less than two days. Lost xenia and yellow tang. Coral Beauty in real bad shape. I can't prove that pvc or acrylic wasn't source of contamination.

see proof right here its bad!!!

CiclidGuy · 05/06/2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmoresps

well, I used a good amount of silicone 2 (windows and doors) on a large system and for the past month I have been getting readings of trace .025 trite (salifert) in an established system I added on to, not enough to effect most corals but sps arent happy. Be safe and go with silicone 1 or spend the money on 'aquarium" sealant

i feel for you bro save yourelf the headache buy Aqurium Safe Silicone
if it doesnt say so "ITS NOT" and why chance it!!

and i can guarantee GE Silicone I & II is bad !

CiclidGuy · 05/06/2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin1977justi

It is only meant to keep the mildew out of the silicone. Is there really enough to kill all of the bacteria in a tank with a total volume of about 200 gallons?

mildew and mold isnt bacteria....its fungis
2 totally different things. but why would you want that in your tank even so?

mario8402 · 05/06/2010, 01:08 PM

why even question it if people are telling you not to use GEII? Go ahead and use it and post back once you have killed everything. People recommend GEI for a reason, thats because someone who didnt research used GEII and wiped out their tank. You know people say dont use it, and you are still trying to use it. use it

05/11/2006, 09:13 AM	#1
justin1977justi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GA Posts: 119	GE Silicone II Kitchen & Bath? I was at Lowe's and the only clear silicone they had was the GE Silicone II Kitchen & Bath. What are the effects of using this for installing baffles in 150g FOWLR? Also, if the reason for not using it is because it leaches out, how long would it take for it to leach all of the bad stuff out?

05/11/2006, 09:18 AM	#2
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	I'm not sure, but you have to make sure that it is NOT mildew resistant. Personally, I use GE Silicon 1 Window and Door. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

05/11/2006, 09:26 AM	#3
dwdenny Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Edinburg, Texas Posts: 1,369	I have used both I and II but make sure that it is for windows and doors as the kitchens and bathrooms ahve the mold inhibitors and could effect your critters. __________________ "Attitude determine altitude" Visit MAAST.org just click the "Red House" Current Tank Info: 40g Breeder in the works

05/11/2006, 09:52 AM	#5
Ti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 7,927	mildew inhibitor is antibacterial. It'll wipe out your beneficial bacteria. __________________ Hair algae is my Macro algae.

05/11/2006, 10:11 AM	#7
Ti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 7,927	According to some people it is fine once it cures. Also if that is the only silicone that LOWES had, then that is a horrible LOWES. Try Home Depot. __________________ Hair algae is my Macro algae.

05/11/2006, 09:35 AM	#4
justin1977justi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GA Posts: 119	That's what I am wondering. What effects would there be?

05/11/2006, 10:03 AM	#6
justin1977justi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GA Posts: 119	It is only meant to keep the mildew out of the silicone. Is there really enough to kill all of the bacteria in a tank with a total volume of about 200 gallons?

05/11/2006, 10:12 AM	#8
dwdenny Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Edinburg, Texas Posts: 1,369	Not sure but that is something that I wouldn't risk anyway. The GE I windows and doors is only like $4 a tube the GEII W & D is $6. Piece of mind is worth a lot more. the 4 or 6 bucks. __________________ "Attitude determine altitude" Visit MAAST.org just click the "Red House" Current Tank Info: 40g Breeder in the works

05/12/2006, 12:30 AM	#9
cmoresps Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 528	well, I used a good amount of silicone 2 (windows and doors) on a large system and for the past month I have been getting readings of trace .025 trite (salifert) in an established system I added on to, not enough to effect most corals but sps arent happy. Be safe and go with silicone 1 or spend the money on 'aquarium" sealant

05/12/2006, 12:31 AM	#10
cmoresps Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 528	ps I used 6 tubes of it, now have to break the expansion tanks down and redo it

05/12/2006, 02:04 AM	#11
UCanDoIt Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 1,684	If you're planning to use a lot, here's a good price on aquarium silicone glue at petscentral: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7755979366 I only use the GE brand for sealing windows, doors and the inside bottom edges of my aquarium stand.

05/12/2006, 03:14 AM	#12
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	I used GE silicon II windows and doors for my sump and have had no problems. My SPS, LPS are doing just fine.

05/12/2006, 03:20 AM	#13
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	Read this thread, this should clear some stuff up. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=841449

05/12/2006, 01:09 PM	#14
cmoresps Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 528	Hmm, looks like it could be an issue with batches or the amount you use. Silicone I is the safe bet

05/16/2006, 08:08 AM	#15
chisel Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 54	I have found that the aquarium silicone is kept by the glues in lowes, I also saw some stuff that is made by goop that was specific to aquarium type applications, and was quick drying. I haven't been in the hobby that long to know the difference, so I wouldn't chance it with anything other than 100% pure silicone.

05/16/2006, 07:34 PM	#16
purza_00 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 320	I used the window and doors silicone II on 4 baffles in a 20g long sump. My tank went south in less than two days. Lost xenia and yellow tang. Coral Beauty in real bad shape. I can't prove that pvc or acrylic wasn't source of contamination.

05/06/2010, 11:39 AM	#17
CiclidGuy Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New England Posts: 35	why do people insist on using GE Silicone cause its cheap??? i take no chances when it comes to aquriums! too much time and money invested!!! invest the extra cash and buy stuff that is clearly marked aqurium safe!!!

05/06/2010, 01:08 PM	#21
mario8402 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 271	why even question it if people are telling you not to use GEII? Go ahead and use it and post back once you have killed everything. People recommend GEI for a reason, thats because someone who didnt research used GEII and wiped out their tank. You know people say dont use it, and you are still trying to use it. use it