HLLE and Fish Solutions...Advice please?!?!

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 10:45 AM

So, I'm pretty sure my Coral Beauty has HLLE

This is my second CB that has ended up with it. (My 1st one died in crash) I've only had her about 16 days now.
Anyways:
My LFS has a bottle of Fish Solutions by EcoSystems Aquariums. They claim that it is great and the "only" stuff to safely reverse HLLE. Any thoughts on that? Has anyone used this or heard of it? Its almost $20 for a 16oz bottle. It suppose to have vitamins and other supplements in it. It also claims it will not bother any of your parameters.
I've never been one to want to add anything into my tank, but if this will help her, I'm all for it. Thats why I'm here!! Need the advice of my RC family before taking the advice of my trusty LFS!

Thanks in advance!!

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 10:48 AM

Here is their site:
http://www.ecosystemaquarium.com/pro...-solution.html

It says that it has garlic extract. No where on the bottle at LFS does it say that though.

stingythingy45 · 05/19/2010, 10:51 AM

What are your water parameters?
You are quite short on LR and there's a pretty good bioload in your tank.
HLLE is mostly caused by pour water conditions and diet.
It used to be believed that stray current in the tank also cound be a factor.But I believe that theory has been proved wrong.
I have been successful at keeping a Coral Beauty for 3 years now.

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 10:59 AM

I actually think that when I purchased the CB she had it. I noticed above her eye it was alittle discolored, but I got her anyway.
My water params:
0 trites, trates, ammonia
8.2 pH 9 Hardness 1.025 salin Ca 440

I don't actually know the amont of lbs of LR but there is alot and has to be more than 30lbs. I also have 2 castles in my tank that are full of life...coraline, worms, dusters, and much more. I do have pics of both my CB and a full shot of tank if you'd like to see.

stingythingy45 · 05/19/2010, 10:59 AM

Also,any way of posting a picture of the fish?

stingythingy45 · 05/19/2010, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebkramer

I actually think that when I purchased the CB she had it. I noticed above her eye it was alittle discolored, but I got her anyway.
My water params:
0 trites, trates, ammonia
8.2 pH 9 Hardness 1.025 salin Ca 440

I don't actually know the amont of lbs of LR but there is alot and has to be more than 30lbs. I also have 2 castles in my tank that are full of life...coraline, worms, dusters, and much more. I do have pics of both my CB and a full shot of tank if you'd like to see.

Sure,I think it would help everyone here if we could see a picture.
How's that skimmer work for you?Is it pulling lots of skimmate?
Do you change water often,mix your own?
Lastly,does the fish eat well?Are you feeding nori often.
I know my CB waits till I put my had in the tank to stick the nori clip in and starts feeding before I even get the suction cup stuck.

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 11:06 AM

I have pics from a few days ago... heres link:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1848696
I can take some more of her today if you'd like...let me know Also, they are not the best pics so I can also try to get better ones too. CB don't like to stay still for very long lol

ArmanS · 05/19/2010, 11:06 AM

I purchased a fish with HLLE, I feed my tang veggies, once a day, and soak its frozen food in Selcon, and Max Amino and the HLLE is reversing slowly.

stingythingy45 · 05/19/2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmanS

I purchased a fish with HLLE, I feed my tang veggies, once a day, and soak its frozen food in Selcon, and Max Amino and the HLLE is reversing slowly.

I agree,Selcon is a great additive.I'll soak nori and even mysis in it before feeding once in a while.Definitely good quality foods will help.

Thebkramer.
I can't really see some pictures here,mostly photobucket,so they didn't show.
Anyways,I checked out your album and the tank looks to be in great shape.
So,If the HLLE came from the LFS it will most likely clear on it's own with good water quality and nutritional foods.
Good luck.

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingythingy45

I agree,Selcon is a great additive.I'll soak nori and even mysis in it before feeding once in a while.Definitely good quality foods will help.
Thebkramer.
I can't really see some pictures here,mostly photobucket,so they didn't show.
Anyways,I checked out your album and the tank looks to be in great shape.
So,If the HLLE came from the LFS it will most likely clear on it's own with good water quality and nutritional foods.
Good luck.

Ok..Thanks so much for taking the time to help me. I'm gonna go ahead and nix the fish solutions for now.
How long do you think I should give her? I know that it is a slow process. If the HLLE starts getting worse, should I then attempt with additives like selcon or fish solutions? Do you think I should buy the Angel Formula Food for her? or do I have enough nutritional foods?

ArmanS · 05/19/2010, 11:52 AM

I think you should let time do it's thing but you should supplement the diet not only if your fish has hlle but Always to have a healthy diet.

thebkramer · 05/19/2010, 12:00 PM

Ok..thanks much ArmanS.

ArmanS · 05/19/2010, 12:14 PM

no problem, glad I can help. Hopefully you will see progress.

05/19/2010, 10:45 AM	#1
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	HLLE and Fish Solutions...Advice please?!?! So, I'm pretty sure my Coral Beauty has HLLE This is my second CB that has ended up with it. (My 1st one died in crash) I've only had her about 16 days now. Anyways: My LFS has a bottle of Fish Solutions by EcoSystems Aquariums. They claim that it is great and the "only" stuff to safely reverse HLLE. Any thoughts on that? Has anyone used this or heard of it? Its almost $20 for a 16oz bottle. It suppose to have vitamins and other supplements in it. It also claims it will not bother any of your parameters. I've never been one to want to add anything into my tank, but if this will help her, I'm all for it. Thats why I'm here!! Need the advice of my RC family before taking the advice of my trusty LFS! Thanks in advance!! __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

05/19/2010, 10:48 AM	#2
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	Here is their site: http://www.ecosystemaquarium.com/pro...-solution.html It says that it has garlic extract. No where on the bottle at LFS does it say that though. __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

05/19/2010, 10:51 AM	#3
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	What are your water parameters? You are quite short on LR and there's a pretty good bioload in your tank. HLLE is mostly caused by pour water conditions and diet. It used to be believed that stray current in the tank also cound be a factor.But I believe that theory has been proved wrong. I have been successful at keeping a Coral Beauty for 3 years now. __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

05/19/2010, 10:59 AM	#4
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	I actually think that when I purchased the CB she had it. I noticed above her eye it was alittle discolored, but I got her anyway. My water params: 0 trites, trates, ammonia 8.2 pH 9 Hardness 1.025 salin Ca 440 I don't actually know the amont of lbs of LR but there is alot and has to be more than 30lbs. I also have 2 castles in my tank that are full of life...coraline, worms, dusters, and much more. I do have pics of both my CB and a full shot of tank if you'd like to see. __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

05/19/2010, 10:59 AM	#5
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	Also,any way of posting a picture of the fish? __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

05/19/2010, 11:06 AM	#7
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	I have pics from a few days ago... heres link: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1848696 I can take some more of her today if you'd like...let me know Also, they are not the best pics so I can also try to get better ones too. CB don't like to stay still for very long lol __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

05/19/2010, 11:06 AM	#8
ArmanS Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 90713 Posts: 1,391	I purchased a fish with HLLE, I feed my tang veggies, once a day, and soak its frozen food in Selcon, and Max Amino and the HLLE is reversing slowly.

05/19/2010, 11:52 AM	#11
ArmanS Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 90713 Posts: 1,391	Re: HLLE and Fish Solutions...Advice please?!?! I think you should let time do it's thing but you should supplement the diet not only if your fish has hlle but Always to have a healthy diet. __________________ 120" x 34" x 30" 540g Build Starting Soon! Royal Exclusiv Dream Box Sump, 2 x 60" ATI LED/T5, DaStaCo CARx, Apex, Genesis, BK SM 250, 3 x RD 3 230w, UV, ATS, & Arid Reactor! Will have build thread so

05/19/2010, 12:00 PM	#12
thebkramer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,198	Ok..thanks much ArmanS. __________________ Rhonda There is NO such things as Dumb Questions!! There are However.. Dumb Answers!!! ;) ____________ Current Tank Info: 55g reef....Current Orbit SunPaq Lights, HOB Eshopps, HOB AquaClear 110, 2-1400 Koralia Powerheads & 1 Nano Koralia, 40+ lbs LR, 2" LS

05/19/2010, 12:14 PM	#13
ArmanS Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 90713 Posts: 1,391	no problem, glad I can help. Hopefully you will see progress.

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