Looking for a good loner fish in my 25! Dwarf Angel too big?

Cheebs · 05/18/2010, 10:55 AM

Hey guys,

I've got a 25 gallon tall tank. It's been established for over a year, and I've recently sold the rather large tomato clown pair that were in it, as I felt the tank was a little too cramped for them. The current residents are a cleaner shrimp, pistol shrimp and the cleanup crew, along with all the corals and a small BTA.

I want the tank to be mainly coral dominated, but I wouldn't mind a fish swimming around int here. Trouble is, it's tough to find a small, interesting fish that would be comfortable in the tank.

I was playing around with he idea of adding a flame angel (I have one in my 40), or another dwarf angel, but after some research, I imagine the tank is too small? Even considering it would be the only fish?

I also have a Royal Gramma in my 20 gallon, which might do nicely, but I'm still not sure.

Any other ideas? I was toying with the idea of a goby for the pistol shrimp, but considering it's a Bullseye pistol shrimp, and that I'm looking for more of a swimmer, I probably won't go with that option.

Any Ideas would be great!!!

Thanks,

Phil.

frankpayne32 · 05/18/2010, 12:09 PM

A cherub dwarf angel would be a good candidate but it may harass your gramma. I would guess not though since the gramma is already established.

Levito · 05/18/2010, 12:22 PM

How about a 6 line wrasse? They're active, harmless to coral, and would be fine by themselves.

billdogg · 05/18/2010, 01:02 PM

I vote for a cherub (pygmy) angel as well. The african flameback is a beautiful fish that maxes out at about 2" It's carribean cousin stays about the same size, but is mostly a dark blue. Either way, they will quickly dominate the tank.

Uncle Salty 05 · 05/18/2010, 01:31 PM

Longhorn Cowfish.

MikeTR · 05/18/2010, 01:34 PM

Cherub angel may pick at your corals.. mine however does not. I have it in along with an orchid dottyback..

Inklinkerman · 05/18/2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty 05

Longhorn Cowfish.

You are joking I hope!

Ive not had angels so I can't comment. What about another clown pair, just a smaller sp.? A firefish? A fridmani dottyback? A mandarin is fun to watch, but not a swimmer. Same with a dwarf fuzzy lionfish. Or a small tang, that can be moved to your other tank in time?
Lots if choice.

Blitzburggirl · 05/19/2010, 10:55 AM

what about an angler?

Cheebs · 05/19/2010, 11:35 AM

Thanks for the great ideas guys! The Cherub Angel is definitely an attractive choice, so far my top pick! I'm considering the other suggestions too, except the cowfish hehe

lars on live · 05/19/2010, 11:51 AM

I vote for a fuzzy lionfish. Great personalities but not overly active.

Cheebs · 05/19/2010, 04:02 PM

I think my only concern with the lionfish, as cool as it would be, is that I'd already be pushing the minimum tank size for it, and because it's a 25 "tall", the amount of perching areas are pretty limited. All the corals add to this problem, and from what I've seen, these guys like to bumble around on the rocks a lot.

cody6766 · 05/19/2010, 04:48 PM

I kept a cherub angel in my 33g cube and it was a model citizen. Be aware that these guys may or may not nip coral and clams. It seems that the cherubs are the least likely to do it, but that means about dick in the world of reefing. Mileage will vary with each fish. I lost mine to an unfortunate heater incident and am thinking of adding another

velvetelvis · 05/19/2010, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levito

How about a 6 line wrasse? They're active, harmless to coral, and would be fine by themselves.

Sixlines tend to get aggressive, especially in small tanks.

05/18/2010, 10:55 AM	#1
Cheebs Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 412	Looking for a good loner fish in my 25! Dwarf Angel too big? Hey guys, I've got a 25 gallon tall tank. It's been established for over a year, and I've recently sold the rather large tomato clown pair that were in it, as I felt the tank was a little too cramped for them. The current residents are a cleaner shrimp, pistol shrimp and the cleanup crew, along with all the corals and a small BTA. I want the tank to be mainly coral dominated, but I wouldn't mind a fish swimming around int here. Trouble is, it's tough to find a small, interesting fish that would be comfortable in the tank. I was playing around with he idea of adding a flame angel (I have one in my 40), or another dwarf angel, but after some research, I imagine the tank is too small? Even considering it would be the only fish? I also have a Royal Gramma in my 20 gallon, which might do nicely, but I'm still not sure. Any other ideas? I was toying with the idea of a goby for the pistol shrimp, but considering it's a Bullseye pistol shrimp, and that I'm looking for more of a swimmer, I probably won't go with that option. Any Ideas would be great!!! Thanks, Phil. __________________ Phil. Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon CADlights rimless

05/18/2010, 12:09 PM	#2
frankpayne32 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,177	A cherub dwarf angel would be a good candidate but it may harass your gramma. I would guess not though since the gramma is already established. __________________ Frank Payne Advice to new hobbyists: listen to people that have a tank you would like to have one day, not to those with a high post count. Current Tank Info: 125 gallon in-wall (build thread is my homepage).

05/18/2010, 01:02 PM	#4
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	I vote for a cherub (pygmy) angel as well. The african flameback is a beautiful fish that maxes out at about 2" It's carribean cousin stays about the same size, but is mostly a dark blue. Either way, they will quickly dominate the tank. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

05/18/2010, 01:31 PM	#5
Uncle Salty 05 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,799	Longhorn Cowfish. __________________ In all that I endure, of one thing I am sure. Knowledge and reason, change like the season. A jester's promenade. - Kerry Livgren Current Tank Info: 180 gal reef tank with dual attached refugiums 20 long and 10 gallon. Plus 55 gallon True Percula breeding tank.

05/19/2010, 11:35 AM	#9
Cheebs Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 412	Thanks for the great ideas guys! The Cherub Angel is definitely an attractive choice, so far my top pick! I'm considering the other suggestions too, except the cowfish hehe __________________ Phil. Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon CADlights rimless

05/18/2010, 12:22 PM	#3
Levito Moved On Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 290	How about a 6 line wrasse? They're active, harmless to coral, and would be fine by themselves.

05/18/2010, 01:34 PM	#6
MikeTR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW FL Posts: 351	Cherub angel may pick at your corals.. mine however does not. I have it in along with an orchid dottyback..

05/19/2010, 10:55 AM	#8
Blitzburggirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 397	what about an angler?

05/19/2010, 11:51 AM	#10
lars on live Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 99	I vote for a fuzzy lionfish. Great personalities but not overly active.

05/19/2010, 04:02 PM	#11
Cheebs Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 412	I think my only concern with the lionfish, as cool as it would be, is that I'd already be pushing the minimum tank size for it, and because it's a 25 "tall", the amount of perching areas are pretty limited. All the corals add to this problem, and from what I've seen, these guys like to bumble around on the rocks a lot. __________________ Phil. Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon CADlights rimless

05/19/2010, 04:48 PM	#12
cody6766 Super Best Friends! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 3,772	I kept a cherub angel in my 33g cube and it was a model citizen. Be aware that these guys may or may not nip coral and clams. It seems that the cherubs are the least likely to do it, but that means about dick in the world of reefing. Mileage will vary with each fish. I lost mine to an unfortunate heater incident and am thinking of adding another

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