Lots of Water Noise

[03sonicstang]

Good afternoon; so I finally put test tap water in to check for leaks. No leaks but lots of water noise. Very minimal noise coming from the actual overflows but lots of water noise from the pipes coming from the overflow going to the sump. especially from the long vertical pipes. Only change from these pictures are Unions on every overflow vertical pipe.

The tank sounds like a water fall....any suggestions?

[03sonicstang]

I just read the Herbie method and now my head is spinning. could this work on a Glass Holes type overflow?

[James77]

It most likely would. IMO BeanAnimal laid out a safer siphon overflow design in the DIY forum. If you have 4 drains, you could use 2 as siphons, one as an open channel, and the other an emergency back up. I use the same style but with a long overflow box and 3 holes. Dead silent.

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by James77

It most likely would. IMO BeanAnimal laid out a safer siphon overflow design in the DIY forum. If you have 4 drains, you could use 2 as siphons, one as an open channel, and the other an emergency back up. I use the same style but with a long overflow box and 3 holes. Dead silent.

Thanks for the response James. so just (2) Ball Valves, one for each overflow? Where would i put them...closest to the bottom of the split off?

Thanks again for your response!

[03sonicstang]

Updated Pictures. I think once I build the canopy it will quiet down a little. Still would love to lower the noise levels..thanks for reading!




Don't mind the messing wiring...everything is temporary until I fill with RO/Salt water

thanks

[reefermad619]

Do the pipes going to sump terminate under the water in your sump?

[03sonicstang]

thank you for the response; yes they're about 3" under the waterline, straight pipe....

[HighlandReef]

It is a little hard for me to tell from the pics but do all 4 lines run down into one then into the sump?
Is it like a gurgling sound?
If all 4 overflow pipes run into the one that might be your problem?
What gph pump you got running for the return to display?

[Johnny C]

I have the same issue with my G/H kits. The problem is that air is entering the overflow and traveling down the pipe, causing the sound of rushing water.

[MrSandman]

Try doing something like this. No fancy name for it. I just call it an inverted standpipe:

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by HighlandReef

It is a little hard for me to tell from the pics but do all 4 lines run down into one then into the sump?
Is it like a gurgling sound?
If all 4 overflow pipes run into the one that might be your problem?
What gph pump you got running for the return to display?

Thanks for the response. (2) Lines from each overflow go to one. So there are a total of (2) 1.5" lines going into the sump

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by MrSandman

Try doing something like this. No fancy name for it. I just call it an inverted standpipe:

That looks interesting. So that should help is the rushing water sound from the stand pipes. Or is that to quiet the noise going into the sump? Thank you for your response

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by Johnny C

I have the same issue with my G/H kits. The problem is that air is entering the overflow and traveling down the pipe, causing the sound of rushing water.

Ever correct it? Or do you just live with it? Mike @ G/H's suggested I turn the stand pipes on a 45 degree angle. Note sure if I want to tear it apart! I just got my order of Macro Dry Key Largo rock and Bahama sand....Getting to excited to start over. I also have to build the canopy so that could quiet the noise a little bit!!

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by HighlandReef

It is a little hard for me to tell from the pics but do all 4 lines run down into one then into the sump?
Is it like a gurgling sound?
If all 4 overflow pipes run into the one that might be your problem?
What gph pump you got running for the return to display?

I'm running (2) Eheim 1262's both on ball valves; running about half throttle

[Johnny C]

Originally Posted by 03sonicstang

Ever correct it? Or do you just live with it? Mike @ G/H's suggested I turn the stand pipes on a 45 degree angle. Note sure if I want to tear it apart! I just got my order of Macro Dry Key Largo rock and Bahama sand....Getting to excited to start over. I also have to build the canopy so that could quiet the noise a little bit!!

I did what Mr. Sandman displayed but unfortunatly it didn't make a difference as far as noise goes. Here is a picture of the way mine is plumbed (before I added the "inverted standpipe"). It isn't terribly loud, but being in my bedroom I can hear it when the TV is off. Wish I knew how to correct it!



PS- The only thing I can think of doing is making a new piece of acrylic (the one that sits vertically inside the G/H box) that is longer so that no air gets into the box, only overflowing water. My only worry is that if something ever got into the box it would clog the overflow and flood.

[03sonicstang]

I've thought about that. I've played with the acrylic piece and sometimes lifting it off the box help....its not terrible...I just do not want to tear the plumbing apart...there's NO leaks at all!!!

[03sonicstang]

Hi just got back from a crazy weekend with my (3) daughters under the age of 5!!! And I've been playing with the overflows....a lot of the noise is coming from the actual overflows. How are your vents adjusted?? Any suggestions on quieting down the actual overflows???? Thanks

[MrSandman]

Originally Posted by 03sonicstang

That looks interesting. So that should help is the rushing water sound from the stand pipes. Or is that to quiet the noise going into the sump? Thank you for your response

I did this to help quiet the noise going into the sump. It helped for me. Its missing in the drawing but what i also did was put a PVC cap on the section where the air bubbles go up. Then on the cap i drilled some holes to allow the air to purge out. Alot of air does purge out because if i didn't drill the holes, the cap would end up lifting due to the backpressure. Its these bubbles that cause the gurgling sounds in your sump. Also, the section of piping that goes down should be as long as possible. I have mine about 3/4" from the bottom of the sump. Also, the horizontal section should be as level with the waterline in your sump as possible. Might not work for everyone but it worked for me. How much flow do you have going through your overflow anyways?

[iamwrasseman]

you need to vent the main horizontal piping farthest from the sump . also there is insulation for pipes that you could wrap them with . also you can slow your return down with a valve and that may help . you don't need to have tons of water movement from the tank to the sump 4x per hour is okay .also you can raise your horizontal pipe as Mrsandman has stated and that would help or you can slant the down tubes and vent the far end too . i think you just have to much return water flow .

[lananthony]

Originally Posted by 03sonicstang

I just read the Herbie method and now my head is spinning. could this work on a Glass Holes type overflow?

I just recently switched my overflows to the herbie method and WOW! My sump is extremely quiet and bubble free. I have 2 Eheim 1262's running wide open on a 120gal. My tank is extremely clear.

[03sonicstang]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I estimate I have between 500-600 gph.... I think once I get the correct water, rocks and the canopy it should quiet the system down..going to insulate the piping for sure.

Really a lot of noise is coming from the actual overflows. Once I play with the flow and vents I'm hoping this system will quiet down....

[03sonicstang]

Originally Posted by lananthony

I just recently switched my overflows to the herbie method and WOW! My sump is extremely quiet and bubble free. I have 2 Eheim 1262's running wide open on a 120gal. My tank is extremely clear.

that's a lot of flow thru your sump, I would really like if I could utilize both pumps but...when i crank them up WOW its moving thru my 40 gallon Sump!!

Thanks for your reply!