Amphiprion Chrysogaster

TXChewy · 08/18/2010, 09:25 AM

Anyone know much about this clown fish?

I have been given the chance to get a pair and I want some advice before I pull the trigger.

I will have to move my snowflake from his 90g tank to a nano. Smaller fish always get the short end.

I have been told the Gaster's natural host is a Mag. Is this true?

Thanks for chiming in

Cheers

joshnola · 08/18/2010, 12:02 PM

I suggest going to rareclownfish.com and reading as much as you can. Ask questions over there and they will know the answers.

Are you sure they are gasters? Gasters are very rarely collected from what I have heard. Who is your source?

If you don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for them?

If you're getting real gasters that is very exciting! Congrats on a great find!

I look forward to seeing some pics.

TXChewy · 08/18/2010, 12:53 PM

Source is a LFS

Not sure on the price yet. They are supposed to get 3-4 pairs but they will not price them until they are held for 2 weeks. I will attempt to get pictures when they arrive and post them here. Last thing I want is to spend a premium amount and then find out they are not Gaster's.

If you have any info regarding prices please PM. I have yet to find a gaster pair online so I could use some assistance on prices.

Thanks for the heads up on the website. Research time!

LargeAngels · 08/18/2010, 01:34 PM

Gasters are currently banned from collection in Mauritius by the government so double check before you buy.

hyperboy · 08/18/2010, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LargeAngels

Gasters are currently banned from collection in Mauritius by the government so double check before you buy.

The last "gasters" I saw come in where Allardi, my LFS owner was not happy with the distributor.
Take a lot of pictures and post them before you buy them.

TXChewy · 08/18/2010, 04:22 PM

Wow this is not sounding good

Do they collect these fish in other area's?

Mavrk · 08/18/2010, 07:44 PM

Translated from German Wikipedia since I couldn't find one in english:
The Mauritius-anemone fish (Amphiprion chrysogaster) lives in the lagoons and coral reefs on the coast of Mauritius, possibly even in Réunion at depths 20-40 meters. Like all anemone fish, he lives in close symbiosis with several large Seeanemonenarten. As a host anemone , he accepts the bead-Anemone (Heteractis aurora), which Prachtanemone (Heteractis magnifica), the corkscrew anemone (macrodactyla doreensis), the Teppichanemone (Stichodactyla haddoni) and Mertens Anemone (Stichodactyla mertensii).

clowns101 · 08/18/2010, 07:56 PM

I know of a wholesaler who said he could get them,But like others have said collection isnt allowed,so I dont know how he can get them.But there is one guy/girl breeding them I do belive.

TXChewy · 08/18/2010, 08:24 PM

Tank breed is prefered

Would you PM me her contact info if you have it?

Thank You

TXChewy · 08/18/2010, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrk

Translated from German Wikipedia since I couldn't find one in english:
The Mauritius-anemone fish (Amphiprion chrysogaster) lives in the lagoons and coral reefs on the coast of Mauritius, possibly even in Réunion at depths 20-40 meters. Like all anemone fish, he lives in close symbiosis with several large Seeanemonenarten. As a host anemone , he accepts the bead-Anemone (Heteractis aurora), which Prachtanemone (Heteractis magnifica), the corkscrew anemone (macrodactyla doreensis), the Teppichanemone (Stichodactyla haddoni) and Mertens Anemone (Stichodactyla mertensii).

Great information thank you for posting this.

I am hopeful these are the real deal because the store owner asked if I would be interested in a Magnifica from the same person collecting the clowns. I will post pictures as soon as I can.

Oh, the collector is out of Africa. Not sure if previous gaster's sold in the US came from this collector or not. I doubt I will be able to track down this info. But, if anyone knows ...

ezhoops · 08/18/2010, 09:07 PM

Yeah buyer beware, please post pics so hopefully we can ID these and give it to ya straight. If it does work out I'm sure people will be begging you to breed these and pass along the offspring

masterbreeder · 08/19/2010, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrk

Translated from German Wikipedia since I couldn't find one in english:
The Mauritius-anemone fish (Amphiprion chrysogaster) lives in the lagoons and coral reefs on the coast of Mauritius, possibly even in Réunion at depths 20-40 meters. Like all anemone fish, he lives in close symbiosis with several large Seeanemonenarten. As a host anemone , he accepts the bead-Anemone (Heteractis aurora), which Prachtanemone (Heteractis magnifica), the corkscrew anemone (macrodactyla doreensis), the Teppichanemone (Stichodactyla haddoni) and Mertens Anemone (Stichodactyla mertensii).

Good translation! I´m German, so I should know, hey?

Teppichanemone = Carpet anemone

masterbreeder · 08/19/2010, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LargeAngels

Gasters are currently banned from collection in Mauritius by the government so double check before you buy.

100% correct as I know the son from one of the two fish collectors of Mauritius.

fingerwrinkles · 08/19/2010, 11:10 AM

I had a pair of these in the past and they were pretty good tank mates although a bit protective of their anemone. Not as aggressive as a tomato or maroon, but somewhat like a mellow clarkii (at least my pair). They hosted in BTAs / RBTAs although the red base / white top magnificas that come fom the same area would be preferred (in my experience).

As mentioned above, these are hard to get and often confused, so do check them closely to determine whether or not they are what the store thinks.

LargeAngels · 08/19/2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbreeder

100% correct as I know the son from one of the two fish collectors of Mauritius.

Would that be your "Spiritual son" Sagar?

masterbreeder · 08/20/2010, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LargeAngels

Would that be your "Spiritual son" Sagar?

Haha, you read about, hey?

That would be the one!

LargeAngels · 08/20/2010, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbreeder

Haha, you read about, hey?

That would be the one!

He told me.

Aqua-Mauritius · 08/21/2010, 12:43 PM

Und Ihr geistlich Sohn ist immer noch leben vater albino clownfisch!!!
And your spiritual son is still alive father albino clownfish!!!

hyperboy · 08/22/2010, 09:54 PM

Yep, talked to my LFS, he said he sees "gasters" every week on the lists coming from Kenya.....they really Allardi

Aqua-Mauritius · 08/22/2010, 11:27 PM

Yes, I personally think chrysogasters is endemic to Mauritius and neighbor Reunion island. SO they often mistaken as clarrkii or allardi

As said before, Chrysogasters are officially banned, however, if bred, there will be possibilities to offer them in the market very soon. I think Master breeder will have a try this time, and from him I might get some help, me too am planning to starting breeding them. Not bad idea at all, just some material and time needed.....

TXChewy · 08/25/2010, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperboy

Yep, talked to my LFS, he said he sees "gasters" every week on the lists coming from Kenya.....they really Allardi

LFS said their list is from Kenya as well. They pulled the order because no one could confirm if in fact they have true Gaster's.

The search continues.

hyperboy · 08/25/2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXChewy

LFS said their list is from Kenya as well. They pulled the order because no one could confirm if in fact they have true Gaster's.

The search continues.

Sorry man....I've been on the hunt too.

masterbreeder · 08/25/2010, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua-Mauritius

Und Ihr geistlich Sohn ist immer noch leben vater albino clownfisch!!!
And your spiritual son is still alive father albino clownfish!!!

Oh son, oh son, your German is terrible.

LargeAngels · 08/25/2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbreeder

Oh son, oh son, your German is terrible.

That was funny.

Aqua-Mauritius · 08/25/2010, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbreeder

Oh son, oh son, your German is terrible.

Heyy at least am trying......

08/18/2010, 09:25 AM	#1
TXChewy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 149	Amphiprion Chrysogaster Anyone know much about this clown fish? I have been given the chance to get a pair and I want some advice before I pull the trigger. I will have to move my snowflake from his 90g tank to a nano. Smaller fish always get the short end. I have been told the Gaster's natural host is a Mag. Is this true? Thanks for chiming in Cheers

08/18/2010, 07:56 PM	#8
clowns101 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,041	I know of a wholesaler who said he could get them,But like others have said collection isnt allowed,so I dont know how he can get them.But there is one guy/girl breeding them I do belive. __________________ Thanks, Austin clowns.101@hotmail.com Current Tank Info: 125 mixed reef system

08/18/2010, 09:07 PM	#11
ezhoops Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan Posts: 3,530	Yeah buyer beware, please post pics so hopefully we can ID these and give it to ya straight. If it does work out I'm sure people will be begging you to breed these and pass along the offspring __________________ "Keep your Friends Close, Your Anemones Closer" Current Tank Info: Working on 60 cube, sicce 3.0 return pump, 29 gal sump with fuge,Bubble Magnus NAC6 Skimmer, Aquaticlife 4 bulb T-5 VHO, 29gal Rare Clown breeding

08/22/2010, 09:54 PM	#19
hyperboy Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dade City, Florida Posts: 781	Yep, talked to my LFS, he said he sees "gasters" every week on the lists coming from Kenya.....they really Allardi __________________ Jonathan Foster FishEye Aquaculture

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08/18/2010, 12:02 PM	#2
joshnola Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 59	I suggest going to rareclownfish.com and reading as much as you can. Ask questions over there and they will know the answers. Are you sure they are gasters? Gasters are very rarely collected from what I have heard. Who is your source? If you don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for them? If you're getting real gasters that is very exciting! Congrats on a great find! I look forward to seeing some pics.

08/18/2010, 12:53 PM	#3
TXChewy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 149	Source is a LFS Not sure on the price yet. They are supposed to get 3-4 pairs but they will not price them until they are held for 2 weeks. I will attempt to get pictures when they arrive and post them here. Last thing I want is to spend a premium amount and then find out they are not Gaster's. If you have any info regarding prices please PM. I have yet to find a gaster pair online so I could use some assistance on prices. Thanks for the heads up on the website. Research time!

08/18/2010, 01:34 PM	#4
LargeAngels Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,651	Gasters are currently banned from collection in Mauritius by the government so double check before you buy.

08/18/2010, 04:22 PM	#6
TXChewy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 149	Wow this is not sounding good Do they collect these fish in other area's?

08/18/2010, 07:44 PM	#7
Mavrk Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California - South Bay Area Posts: 2,775	Translated from German Wikipedia since I couldn't find one in english: The Mauritius-anemone fish (Amphiprion chrysogaster) lives in the lagoons and coral reefs on the coast of Mauritius, possibly even in Réunion at depths 20-40 meters. Like all anemone fish, he lives in close symbiosis with several large Seeanemonenarten. As a host anemone , he accepts the bead-Anemone (Heteractis aurora), which Prachtanemone (Heteractis magnifica), the corkscrew anemone (macrodactyla doreensis), the Teppichanemone (Stichodactyla haddoni) and Mertens Anemone (Stichodactyla mertensii).

08/18/2010, 08:24 PM	#9
TXChewy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 149	Tank breed is prefered Would you PM me her contact info if you have it? Thank You

08/19/2010, 11:10 AM	#14
fingerwrinkles Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lafayette, CA Posts: 783	I had a pair of these in the past and they were pretty good tank mates although a bit protective of their anemone. Not as aggressive as a tomato or maroon, but somewhat like a mellow clarkii (at least my pair). They hosted in BTAs / RBTAs although the red base / white top magnificas that come fom the same area would be preferred (in my experience). As mentioned above, these are hard to get and often confused, so do check them closely to determine whether or not they are what the store thinks.

08/21/2010, 12:43 PM	#18
Aqua-Mauritius Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 63	Und Ihr geistlich Sohn ist immer noch leben vater albino clownfisch!!! And your spiritual son is still alive father albino clownfish!!!

08/22/2010, 11:27 PM	#20
Aqua-Mauritius Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 63	Yes, I personally think chrysogasters is endemic to Mauritius and neighbor Reunion island. SO they often mistaken as clarrkii or allardi As said before, Chrysogasters are officially banned, however, if bred, there will be possibilities to offer them in the market very soon. I think Master breeder will have a try this time, and from him I might get some help, me too am planning to starting breeding them. Not bad idea at all, just some material and time needed.....