Whats going on with this? Please HELP!!!

scholls22 · 08/26/2010, 07:17 AM

When I purchased on Saturday

Thismorning

Potsy · 08/26/2010, 07:46 AM

That's typical for long tentacle plate corals. They're notoriously delicate until they settle in, and even then they'll still bite the dust for no apparent reason.

scholls22 · 08/26/2010, 08:10 AM

It was fine the first two days. I fed it mysis on Tuesday and ever since then it slowly turned into what it is now.

Should I worry or will it come back?

scholls22 · 08/26/2010, 12:27 PM

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sslak · 08/26/2010, 01:16 PM

It didn't look real great to begin with, tissue recession around the edges...the Long Tentacles have notoriously bad mortality rates.

Hope it recovers for you...not much you can do I don't think.

firerunner · 08/26/2010, 01:44 PM

You bought it with the tissue recession? Plate corals are SO hard to do you look at them wrong and they recede.

sorry

Whisperer · 08/26/2010, 01:54 PM

It looks fine on the edges on the second pic. There is not tissue loss.
Try to remove it on top of the sand and place it on a rock. Place it is a low flow area. Good luck.

tom499 · 08/26/2010, 05:18 PM

the first pic it looks okay. the second one it looks like it still has to settle in. mine looked the same the first and second day i had it. i wouldn't worry yet give it a couple of days of low flow and a bit of shade mine has recovered fully.

Specialtang · 08/26/2010, 08:48 PM

I would use something the defuse the light for a few days, maybe even place under a rock but in a semi lighted area. Also get it off the sand.

BFG · 08/27/2010, 03:46 AM

I agree, the OP bought it with tissue recession on the edge. That in itself is not a healthy coral to begin with and the stress of moving it in to a new environment just pushes it over the edge.

Whisperer · 08/27/2010, 05:44 AM

On the left hand corner, one can see a tear in the tissue exposing a small peek of the skeleton. Other than that, there is no tissue loss.

scholls22 · 08/27/2010, 09:39 AM

It looks like it is just about dead. I'm brand new to this whole thing so I'm not sure, but all of the tentacles are pretty much gone. What ****es me off the most is how "hardy" it is and it will grow and blah blah blah. I overpaid for this coral too from what I was told. It didn't even make it a week.

I've read by googling this type of thing, that sometimes they can come back...Any truth to this or should I throw it out?

LaOtIn · 08/27/2010, 09:49 AM

always try to save it before tossing it. by following the directions of people above there is a slight chance that it could pull through.

keep us updated on it's progress over the next few days!

good luck

small alien · 08/27/2010, 11:00 AM

I lost one suddenly that I'd have for 4-5 months. I sensed I was not feeding it enough. They can really chow down. Good luck. I don't think you have much to lose be letting it stay in the tank and see what happens.

Runfrumu · 08/27/2010, 01:17 PM

try feeding it alot, and it should help it. As someone mentioned, the longs are hard to keep, mine croaked after a year or so.

The short tentacle ones are alot easier, but mine are bad about drifting around sometimes and tangling with things that can sting worse than them. The plates always seem to draw the short stick when it comes to wars.

small alien · 08/27/2010, 02:03 PM

Ever drink Bailey's from a shoe?

D-Nak · 08/27/2010, 02:39 PM

The two photos look like they are taken from different angles. In the first photo I see the recession along the entire right side. In the second photo, which looks to be more of a side-view photo, I don't see the recession (no skeleton is exposed).

I agree with other posters that it should be removed from the sand. Speaking of which, how old is your tank? Or more specifically, how old is the sand and what type is it? I've heard of "new" sand causing irritation in soft bodied coral.

What type of coral is behind it (in the second photo)? Looks like a torch or a hammer or frogspawn? How it is doing, and the other coral in your tank? Give us a sense of your water parameters.

scholls22 · 08/27/2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Nak

The two photos look like they are taken from different angles. In the first photo I see the recession along the entire right side. In the second photo, which looks to be more of a side-view photo, I don't see the recession (no skeleton is exposed).

I agree with other posters that it should be removed from the sand. Speaking of which, how old is your tank? Or more specifically, how old is the sand and what type is it? I've heard of "new" sand causing irritation in soft bodied coral.

What type of coral is behind it (in the second photo)? Looks like a torch or a hammer or frogspawn? How it is doing, and the other coral in your tank? Give us a sense of your water parameters.

The tank is up and running for about 6 weeks now. The sand is just as old and I believe it is Aragonite sand. The coral behind it is a frogspawn that was given to me Weds and its doing well so far.

I just tested my water this morning and everything is perfect. The coral went downhill when I fed it. It grabbed on to the mysis and shriveled up since. I just got a piece of pretty flat live rock from the LFS that I'm going to put in tonight when I get home.

D-Nak · 08/27/2010, 03:10 PM

I think we can rule out the sand. You may not want to move it and just leave it alone. Sounds like everything is normal assuming there is not tissue recession. I'd just keep an eye on it. Mine would act strange after eating too -- it would deflate, then puff up, the go back down to size.

small alien · 08/27/2010, 03:34 PM

The deflating is no big deal, but the recession is.

Everything I've read suggests the sand bed is the best place for plate corals. But I could be wrong.

08/26/2010, 07:17 AM	#1
scholls22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 127	Whats going on with this? Please HELP!!! When I purchased on Saturday Thismorning

08/26/2010, 01:16 PM	#5
sslak Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,705	It didn't look real great to begin with, tissue recession around the edges...the Long Tentacles have notoriously bad mortality rates. Hope it recovers for you...not much you can do I don't think. __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 58 Oceanic/20g Sump/250w XM 20k/2x39w T5 True Actinic 03/2010 Reef Octopus NW Cone Skimmer

08/26/2010, 01:44 PM	#6
firerunner Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 61	You bought it with the tissue recession? Plate corals are SO hard to do you look at them wrong and they recede. sorry __________________ 55 gallon QT tank 150 Gallon Reef tank with a 25 gallon sump and a 25 gallon refugium 5000 Gallon koi Pond ( I so want a salt water pond! I WILL convince the hubby of it) 500 Gallon Turtle pond.

08/26/2010, 01:54 PM	#7
Whisperer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Gorda, FL Posts: 4,020	It looks fine on the edges on the second pic. There is not tissue loss. Try to remove it on top of the sand and place it on a rock. Place it is a low flow area. Good luck. __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. --------- No one is born with intellect and age guarantees wisdom to no one. Current Tank Info: 120G reef, 30G sump, 10G QT tank

08/27/2010, 03:46 AM	#10
BFG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 700	I agree, the OP bought it with tissue recession on the edge. That in itself is not a healthy coral to begin with and the stress of moving it in to a new environment just pushes it over the edge. __________________ If you've learnt, teach. If you have, give.

08/26/2010, 07:46 AM	#2
Potsy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kinnelon, NJ Posts: 1,827	That's typical for long tentacle plate corals. They're notoriously delicate until they settle in, and even then they'll still bite the dust for no apparent reason.

08/26/2010, 08:10 AM	#3
scholls22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 127	It was fine the first two days. I fed it mysis on Tuesday and ever since then it slowly turned into what it is now. Should I worry or will it come back?

08/26/2010, 12:27 PM	#4
scholls22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 127	...

08/26/2010, 05:18 PM	#8
tom499 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 83	the first pic it looks okay. the second one it looks like it still has to settle in. mine looked the same the first and second day i had it. i wouldn't worry yet give it a couple of days of low flow and a bit of shade mine has recovered fully.

08/26/2010, 08:48 PM	#9
Specialtang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Orange County, NEW YORK! Posts: 121	I would use something the defuse the light for a few days, maybe even place under a rock but in a semi lighted area. Also get it off the sand.

08/27/2010, 05:44 AM	#11
Whisperer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Gorda, FL Posts: 4,020	On the left hand corner, one can see a tear in the tissue exposing a small peek of the skeleton. Other than that, there is no tissue loss. __________________ The bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. --------- No one is born with intellect and age guarantees wisdom to no one. Current Tank Info: 120G reef, 30G sump, 10G QT tank

08/27/2010, 09:39 AM	#12
scholls22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 127	It looks like it is just about dead. I'm brand new to this whole thing so I'm not sure, but all of the tentacles are pretty much gone. What ****es me off the most is how "hardy" it is and it will grow and blah blah blah. I overpaid for this coral too from what I was told. It didn't even make it a week. I've read by googling this type of thing, that sometimes they can come back...Any truth to this or should I throw it out?

08/27/2010, 09:49 AM	#13
LaOtIn Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 704	always try to save it before tossing it. by following the directions of people above there is a slight chance that it could pull through. keep us updated on it's progress over the next few days! good luck __________________ I am a water keeper that happens to like fish and coral Once a Marine, Always a Marine Semper Fidelis Devil Dog

08/27/2010, 11:00 AM	#14
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,884	I lost one suddenly that I'd have for 4-5 months. I sensed I was not feeding it enough. They can really chow down. Good luck. I don't think you have much to lose be letting it stay in the tank and see what happens. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. F OSFF, Clingfish, M/F Leopards, M Mandy, Darwin Clown, Bullet Goby, Green Clown Goby, M/F Matted Files, Bluestripe Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Canary Wrasse, Royal Gramma, Papua Toby Puffer, Snooty Maori Wrasse.

08/27/2010, 01:17 PM	#15
Runfrumu Hi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,014	try feeding it alot, and it should help it. As someone mentioned, the longs are hard to keep, mine croaked after a year or so. The short tentacle ones are alot easier, but mine are bad about drifting around sometimes and tangling with things that can sting worse than them. The plates always seem to draw the short stick when it comes to wars. __________________ Red Sea Max 130d and 125 gallon mixed reef. Current Tank Info: 125 gallon oceanic tank, Lighthouse Pro XLS, 72" outer orbit fixture, H&S 150-F2000/1 skimmer, H&S 110 Calcium Reactor, Tunze 7096, 2 Tunze 6105's , Tunze Osmolator, Prime 1/4hp drop-in chiller. 5 years running. Red Sea Max, 3 years.

08/27/2010, 02:03 PM	#16
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,884	Ever drink Bailey's from a shoe? __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. F OSFF, Clingfish, M/F Leopards, M Mandy, Darwin Clown, Bullet Goby, Green Clown Goby, M/F Matted Files, Bluestripe Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Canary Wrasse, Royal Gramma, Papua Toby Puffer, Snooty Maori Wrasse.

08/27/2010, 02:39 PM	#17
D-Nak Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 5,797	The two photos look like they are taken from different angles. In the first photo I see the recession along the entire right side. In the second photo, which looks to be more of a side-view photo, I don't see the recession (no skeleton is exposed). I agree with other posters that it should be removed from the sand. Speaking of which, how old is your tank? Or more specifically, how old is the sand and what type is it? I've heard of "new" sand causing irritation in soft bodied coral. What type of coral is behind it (in the second photo)? Looks like a torch or a hammer or frogspawn? How it is doing, and the other coral in your tank? Give us a sense of your water parameters.

08/27/2010, 03:10 PM	#19
D-Nak Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 5,797	I think we can rule out the sand. You may not want to move it and just leave it alone. Sounds like everything is normal assuming there is not tissue recession. I'd just keep an eye on it. Mine would act strange after eating too -- it would deflate, then puff up, the go back down to size.

08/27/2010, 03:34 PM	#20
small alien The fungus is among us. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,884	The deflating is no big deal, but the recession is. Everything I've read suggests the sand bed is the best place for plate corals. But I could be wrong. __________________ This moment is all we have. Current Tank Info: 75 mixed reef. F OSFF, Clingfish, M/F Leopards, M Mandy, Darwin Clown, Bullet Goby, Green Clown Goby, M/F Matted Files, Bluestripe Pipe, Tailspot Blenny, Canary Wrasse, Royal Gramma, Papua Toby Puffer, Snooty Maori Wrasse.