Setting up Refugium - Mud Help

mbx5r4life · 08/30/2010, 10:22 AM

Which type of mud should I use? Walt Smith's Refugium Fiji Mud?
EcoSystem Miracle Mud? Refugium Mineral Mud? Not sure which type to use. A friend of mine uses live sand and live rock in his, but LFS has said mud is better. Any suggestions?

kcochran0010 · 08/30/2010, 10:45 AM

A friend of mine used EcoSystem Miracle Mud and said within hours his corals were extended and looking better then they ever have. But I have no personal experience with the stuff, just heard great things about it!

sedor · 08/30/2010, 10:50 AM

If you haven't already purchased the mud, I would skip it all together. Most peoples impressions are that its overpriced...well mud that doesn't really do much besides make a mess. You'd be better off investing in live rock rubble and cheato. Any LFS is going to try and sell the mud, because they make more $$$ on it.

jenglish · 08/30/2010, 10:53 AM

Mud can be useful if you are wanting to grow seagrasses. Otherwise, I also think it is generally overpriced and unneeded.

rayn · 08/30/2010, 11:09 AM

You could go with a DSB instead with some cheato. I thought about the mud too, but to expensive in MH opinion.

dublo8 · 08/30/2010, 11:24 AM

FWIW a dsb, live rock rubble and chaeto is a much better option than the mud. skip the mud.

gweston · 08/30/2010, 12:11 PM

I just have liverock rubble and chaeto in my fuge. No sand or mud. Still deciding on the next tank/sump/fuge config. Still unsure if I am going to bother with a DSB.

I may set up a mangrove tank on the side.. mud may be an option for that. But, as others said. It is pricey stuff and the manufacturers typically suggest changing sections of the mud out every so often to replenish it.

mbx5r4life · 08/30/2010, 01:48 PM

So I get a consensus of mud being not worth the money.

Bohler · 08/30/2010, 01:54 PM

I used the cheaper stuff and it seems to work out okay

Reverend Reefer · 08/30/2010, 03:45 PM

i'd X the mud as well. not worth it, mostly good if u want a planted garden fuge with seagrass.

08/30/2010, 10:22 AM	#1
mbx5r4life Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 69	Setting up Refugium - Mud Help Which type of mud should I use? Walt Smith's Refugium Fiji Mud? EcoSystem Miracle Mud? Refugium Mineral Mud? Not sure which type to use. A friend of mine uses live sand and live rock in his, but LFS has said mud is better. Any suggestions?

08/30/2010, 10:50 AM	#3
sedor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,689	If you haven't already purchased the mud, I would skip it all together. Most peoples impressions are that its overpriced...well mud that doesn't really do much besides make a mess. You'd be better off investing in live rock rubble and cheato. Any LFS is going to try and sell the mud, because they make more $$$ on it. __________________ Ryan

08/30/2010, 10:53 AM	#4
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	Mud can be useful if you are wanting to grow seagrasses. Otherwise, I also think it is generally overpriced and unneeded. __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

08/30/2010, 11:09 AM	#5
rayn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pekin, Il Posts: 2,864	You could go with a DSB instead with some cheato. I thought about the mud too, but to expensive in MH opinion. __________________ Currently changing, stay tuned for new details...

08/30/2010, 11:24 AM	#6
dublo8 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 3,225	FWIW a dsb, live rock rubble and chaeto is a much better option than the mud. skip the mud. __________________ 10g IM fusion. Zoa and SPS dominant, Apex monitored, Ai Prime, MP10, sicce return.

08/30/2010, 10:45 AM	#2
kcochran0010 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Louisville Kentucky Posts: 676	A friend of mine used EcoSystem Miracle Mud and said within hours his corals were extended and looking better then they ever have. But I have no personal experience with the stuff, just heard great things about it!

08/30/2010, 12:11 PM	#7
gweston Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gardner, MA Posts: 961	I just have liverock rubble and chaeto in my fuge. No sand or mud. Still deciding on the next tank/sump/fuge config. Still unsure if I am going to bother with a DSB. I may set up a mangrove tank on the side.. mud may be an option for that. But, as others said. It is pricey stuff and the manufacturers typically suggest changing sections of the mud out every so often to replenish it.

08/30/2010, 01:48 PM	#8
mbx5r4life Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 69	So I get a consensus of mud being not worth the money.

08/30/2010, 01:54 PM	#9
Bohler Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago sub-burbs Posts: 176	I used the cheaper stuff and it seems to work out okay

08/30/2010, 03:45 PM	#10
Reverend Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 883	i'd X the mud as well. not worth it, mostly good if u want a planted garden fuge with seagrass. __________________ - Rev. Tank: 65G glass 48" long tank; Sump/Fuge: 30G. Lighting: LEDs+single T5 strip. Maintenance: ATO Kalkwasser + 10% weekly WC, daily feedings LPS+Softies dominated.

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