Whats the verdictk on the long tentical aneomnes ?

kimberlee · 08/31/2010, 09:37 AM

Care level? compatibility? ect.

qbical · 08/31/2010, 10:33 AM

here is a link with some info
HTH
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...gtentacle.html

kimberlee · 08/31/2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by qbical

here is a link with some info
HTH
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...gtentacle.html

links are great, personal experience better.

stingythingy45 · 08/31/2010, 11:10 AM

I believe it was found guilty.

Just make sure you have a good sized tank.They'll sting the heck out of any corals in the area.

Mavrk · 08/31/2010, 11:26 AM

I would ask this in the anemone/clownfish forum. All I can say is that if your tank is less than 6 months old, I wouldn't put any kind of anemone in there. Also, LTA's do not split and can get big. So details about your tank would be helpful. Parameters (including salinity, nitrate, temp, etc.), lighting, size, sump, skimmer, powerheads, etc. The more you tell us about your system, the easier it is to help.

Toddrtrex · 08/31/2010, 12:08 PM

That article left a bit to be desired.

kimberlee -- tell me a bit about your tank.

But, in general.. LTAs (( M. doreensis )) can be a bit challenging -- mainly finding a healthy one, and even if you do, some of them just don't seem to settle in. Make sure to check the foot for any damage -- do NOT purchase one that has any damage to its foot.

The mouth should be tightly closed, and avoid any white LTAs.

I would say that the tank should be around 75 gallons (( exceptions can be made if you have a decent amount of experience with anemones )). Should have a sandbed that is at least 3" deep -- deeper for larger ones -- can be locally deep. They are sand dwelling anemones.

Flow can be tricky -- enough to clear wastes, but not too much to blow it around. All powerheads MUST be covered. For lighting, I would say either MH or T5's (( with individual reflectors )) -- the amount of either depends on the tank and color temp.

Normal reef parameters -- 0's for the "bad" stuff, salinity/SG should be 35 PPT/1.026 cal 350-450 alk ~ 3 meq/l Mag. 1300-1500 and temps b/t 76-83.

DaveBien · 08/31/2010, 04:48 PM

Todd knows anemones !!!!!

Toddrtrex · 08/31/2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveBien

Todd knows anemones !!!!!

Hey stranger.

thebkramer · 08/31/2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveBien

Todd knows anemones !!!!!

I had a LTA for 2yrs in my 55g. He was HUGE before he passed away due to a tank crash. He completely took up the left side of my tank. His tentacles were soooo long!! He could touch the back to front and when he was full extended he could touch the top of the tank as well!! so that is 12in Wide (back to front of tank) and almost 18 in tall. My clowns loved it.. of course! I miss them very much.. but I would never put another LTA in a 55g or even a 75g for that matter! They need alot of room.
IMO.. he was very easy to care for and I hardly ever fed him. Every once in a blue I would give him frozen formula one and it was amazing to watch him wrap his tentacles around it and bring to his mouth!! Tentacles IMO didn't have much of a sting.. but my Longnose Butterfly did get stuck one day and I had to help him get out

I hope that helps you some

kimberlee · 08/31/2010, 09:20 PM

Sorry was off cooking for a bit. 55gal,ammonia, phosphates, and nitrates stay stable between 0-5,2 power heads and a sea clone protein skimmer, fitted for a hundred gal tank to take on the 20 gal sump going on next. T-5 Lighting. Sand bed is 3" deep, temp 80 deg., SG 1.023.

kimberlee · 08/31/2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thebkramer

I had a LTA for 2yrs in my 55g. He was HUGE before he passed away due to a tank crash. He completely took up the left side of my tank. His tentacles were soooo long!! He could touch the back to front and when he was full extended he could touch the top of the tank as well!! so that is 12in Wide (back to front of tank) and almost 18 in tall. My clowns loved it.. of course! I miss them very much.. but I would never put another LTA in a 55g or even a 75g for that matter! They need alot of room.
IMO.. he was very easy to care for and I hardly ever fed him. Every once in a blue I would give him frozen formula one and it was amazing to watch him wrap his tentacles around it and bring to his mouth!! Tentacles IMO didn't have much of a sting.. but my Longnose Butterfly did get stuck one day and I had to help him get out

I hope that helps you some

THX< wanted to hear some good. Everythig online makes them sound as if they need their own tank.

Toddrtrex · 08/31/2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kimberlee

Sorry was off cooking for a bit. 55gal,ammonia, phosphates, and nitrates stay stable between 0-5,2 power heads and a sea clone protein skimmer, fitted for a hundred gal tank to take on the 20 gal sump going on next. T-5 Lighting. Sand bed is 3" deep, temp 80 deg., SG 1.023.

I would up your SG to 1.026.

Would upgrade your skimmer.

What T5 fixture? How many bulbs, color, wattage? Individual reflectors?

steelhead77 · 09/01/2010, 12:47 AM

I would stay away from the LTA's Kim. They can be challenging and they do get huge. I'd recommend starting out with a Bubble Tip Anemone (BTA) they are a lot more forgiving in the care needed. I have green one I'll GIVE you if you want it.

ludnix · 09/01/2010, 02:04 AM

Mine got too big for my 120g, It made it impossible to add anything near it's quarter of the tank.

kimberlee · 09/01/2010, 11:19 AM

1 fixture, 2 bulbs, 1 bulb 10,000k ultra sun, 1 6,500 actinic blue, w/ own reflector. putting in another fixture by the end of the month.

Toddrtrex · 09/01/2010, 11:24 AM

With your current lights, I wouldn't suggest any hosting anemone.

Mavrk · 09/01/2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

I would up your SG to 1.026.

Agreed, except I would spend the 40 bucks and get a refractometer and run salinity at 35. SG is temperature dependent and hydrometers are unreliable.

The other option is to bring in some water to your LFS and compare your readings to their refractometer (provided they use one).

Toddrtrex · 09/01/2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavrk

Agreed, except I would spend the 40 bucks and get a refractometer and run salinity at 35. SG is temperature dependent and hydrometers are unreliable.

The other option is to bring in some water to your LFS and compare your readings to their refractometer (provided they use one).

Minor point, but my refrac measures both SG and salinity and auto corrects for temp.

kimberlee · 09/18/2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

With your current lights, I wouldn't suggest any hosting anemone.

I plan to add more lighting in side of the month, preparing for a BTA. Other than stronger lighting are there any other preparations I can make before I bring one home?

Nemo8710 · 09/18/2010, 11:38 AM

I Have seen BTA is nano with the stock PC< The nem also look shappy and healty . BUt i myself still would not do it. I like for my stuff to thrive nto survive.

nikon187 · 09/18/2010, 01:50 PM

The canister filter is a nitrate factory and that skimmer should be upgraded.

2Addicted · 09/18/2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kimberlee

I plan to add more lighting in side of the month, preparing for a BTA. Other than stronger lighting are there any other preparations I can make before I bring one home?

Cover all powerheads! Now that your thinking about a bta they have different needs than lta.

08/31/2010, 09:37 AM	#1
kimberlee Kimberlee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 168	Whats the verdictk on the long tentical aneomnes ? Care level? compatibility? ect.

08/31/2010, 11:10 AM	#4
stingythingy45 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MA Posts: 3,296	I believe it was found guilty. Just make sure you have a good sized tank.They'll sting the heck out of any corals in the area. __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 90 gallon,mixed Reef,2-250 watt Optix 3 pendants(Phoenix 14K)2-54 watt T5 Super actnics ,ASM G-2 Gate/recirc mods,70 gal. basement sump,20L ref

08/31/2010, 12:08 PM	#6
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	That article left a bit to be desired. kimberlee -- tell me a bit about your tank. But, in general.. LTAs (( M. doreensis )) can be a bit challenging -- mainly finding a healthy one, and even if you do, some of them just don't seem to settle in. Make sure to check the foot for any damage -- do NOT purchase one that has any damage to its foot. The mouth should be tightly closed, and avoid any white LTAs. I would say that the tank should be around 75 gallons (( exceptions can be made if you have a decent amount of experience with anemones )). Should have a sandbed that is at least 3" deep -- deeper for larger ones -- can be locally deep. They are sand dwelling anemones. Flow can be tricky -- enough to clear wastes, but not too much to blow it around. All powerheads MUST be covered. For lighting, I would say either MH or T5's (( with individual reflectors )) -- the amount of either depends on the tank and color temp. Normal reef parameters -- 0's for the "bad" stuff, salinity/SG should be 35 PPT/1.026 cal 350-450 alk ~ 3 meq/l Mag. 1300-1500 and temps b/t 76-83. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

08/31/2010, 04:48 PM	#7
DaveBien Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago area / DuPage Co Posts: 1,596	Todd knows anemones !!!!! __________________ Never wrestle with a pig, you'll just get muddy and besides the pig likes it !!! Recently retired aberrant antisocial behavior modificationist. Current Tank Info: Help the helpless, not the clueless. And yes that is a political opinion.

09/01/2010, 12:47 AM	#13
steelhead77 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Albany, Oregon Posts: 1,117	I would stay away from the LTA's Kim. They can be challenging and they do get huge. I'd recommend starting out with a Bubble Tip Anemone (BTA) they are a lot more forgiving in the care needed. I have green one I'll GIVE you if you want it. __________________ This really isn't rocket science - it's more like marine biology. Current tank info: 180 gallon AGA, 40 gallon custom sump, AquaC EV240 skimmer, PM calc reactor, 3x 250w DIY MH, PCI CL-650 Chiller, 2x Koralia 4's, 2x Koralia 2's

08/31/2010, 10:33 AM	#2
qbical Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 79	here is a link with some info HTH http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...gtentacle.html

08/31/2010, 11:26 AM	#5
Mavrk Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California - South Bay Area Posts: 2,775	I would ask this in the anemone/clownfish forum. All I can say is that if your tank is less than 6 months old, I wouldn't put any kind of anemone in there. Also, LTA's do not split and can get big. So details about your tank would be helpful. Parameters (including salinity, nitrate, temp, etc.), lighting, size, sump, skimmer, powerheads, etc. The more you tell us about your system, the easier it is to help.

08/31/2010, 09:20 PM	#10
kimberlee Kimberlee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 168	Sorry was off cooking for a bit. 55gal,ammonia, phosphates, and nitrates stay stable between 0-5,2 power heads and a sea clone protein skimmer, fitted for a hundred gal tank to take on the 20 gal sump going on next. T-5 Lighting. Sand bed is 3" deep, temp 80 deg., SG 1.023.

09/01/2010, 02:04 AM	#14
ludnix Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,031	Mine got too big for my 120g, It made it impossible to add anything near it's quarter of the tank. __________________ -Eric Sutter Current Tank Info: 14g Biocube

09/01/2010, 11:19 AM	#15
kimberlee Kimberlee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 168	1 fixture, 2 bulbs, 1 bulb 10,000k ultra sun, 1 6,500 actinic blue, w/ own reflector. putting in another fixture by the end of the month.

09/01/2010, 11:24 AM	#16
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	With your current lights, I wouldn't suggest any hosting anemone. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

09/18/2010, 11:38 AM	#20
Nemo8710 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Clayton N.C Posts: 63	I Have seen BTA is nano with the stock PC< The nem also look shappy and healty . BUt i myself still would not do it. I like for my stuff to thrive nto survive. __________________ ~Minimum Requirements Means Minimum Happiness For All~ ~250DD Gallon Reef ~ Current Tank Info: 125 Mixed Reef

09/18/2010, 01:50 PM	#21
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	The canister filter is a nitrate factory and that skimmer should be upgraded. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

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