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Unread 09/29/2010, 04:02 PM   #1
nychris351
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Miracle Mud or regular deep sand bed?

Setting up a sump/fuge this weekend..was wondering which is better.. i have had a deep sand bed before but never tried the Miracle Mud.. i only plan on keeping LPS and fish...any input is appreciated..thanks!


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Unread 09/29/2010, 04:29 PM   #2
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I want to know good & bad also. Considering Miracle mud too...


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Unread 09/29/2010, 04:36 PM   #3
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I considered it years ago for a fuge but after doing a bit of research I found that people really didn't think it did anything for their tanks. I have read that it's good if you are growing macro algae in the display. I gave it a pass.


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Unread 09/30/2010, 07:37 AM   #4
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what are your expectations of the sump? for the tank you've got, I wouldnt think you need high nitrate export demands.


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I've been reading that rock rubble and live rock with some marco algae is all you need. MM is considered snake oil here on RC. Also, to have a DSB in the sump you need to produce a LOT of flow over the DSB which can be hard in a small sump...


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Unread 09/30/2010, 02:39 PM   #6
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I tried talking a friend of mine out of the miracle mud route, he didnt listen lol. After a year and a half he goit rid of it and just has rock rubble and chaeto in his sump now. IMHO its a waste of money and worse your valuable time with the maintenance it requires.


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Unread 09/30/2010, 02:39 PM   #7
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Miracle mud is basically a form of live sand, with beneficial organisms in it. It's questionable as to how beneficial, and you'll find about as many who swear by it as who swear at it. A DSB doesn't start with any beneficial organisms, but develops them over a period of time. You'll also find those who swear by/at a DSB.

Read the sticky on DSB's at the top of this forum for more info on them.

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