I found these in my sump sock alive...ID?

XrayGuy · 10/23/2010, 01:55 PM

Can someone tell me what these are and should I put them back in my tank or flush them? I switched my sump socks out today and these were crawling around in the dirty one. Thanks for any help you can give!

Ben_Im · 10/23/2010, 01:59 PM

Looks like amphipods to me. Harmless detritivore

rssjsb · 10/23/2010, 01:59 PM

amphipods - good scavengers and food for fish. put 'em back.

drnihili · 10/23/2010, 02:00 PM

Amphipods! yay!

Great Stuff. May you be blessed with thousands more. Keep em.

XrayGuy · 10/23/2010, 02:01 PM

Awesome, I will put them back. Thanks for the replies!

Waterobert · 10/23/2010, 02:01 PM

Good staff, put them back.

aleonn · 10/23/2010, 04:58 PM

Wow, those amphipods are huge compared to the ones in my tank! Throw them back into the tank... free food for the fish!

KeMo · 10/23/2010, 06:20 PM

Watch out I had big pods like that in my DT that were Zoa munchers .Yea Yea I know what most will say they dont eat healthy coral. Just do I search on here as many have had that problem .
do a search because those look to be what I had.
zoanthid eating ampipods

XrayGuy · 10/24/2010, 01:52 AM

KeMo - I will keep an eye out for that because I do have quite a few zoas in my tank...I saw one of the little buggers crawling around one of the colonies a little bit ago after lights out, but he didnt seem to be eating. Extreme vulgarity removed. DO NOT DO THAT AGAIN

billdogg · 10/24/2010, 06:40 AM

FWIW - just killing the ones in your filter sock, even if they are bad (which I doubt - I have about a gazillion of them in my softy tank) will not even begin to dent the actual population. A flasher wrasse of one sort or another will certainly keep them in check. My orange back fairy wrasse picks at them all day, and is the fattest, happiest fish I have ever seen.

HTH

Sugar Magnolia · 10/24/2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeMo

Watch out I had big pods like that in my DT that were Zoa munchers .Yea Yea I know what most will say they dont eat healthy coral. Just do I search on here as many have had that problem .
do a search because those look to be what I had.
zoanthid eating ampipods

Aeolid nudibranchs eat zoas. What you saw is likely the amphipod grazing on detritus or algae between the zoa polyps. The predatory type of amphipod is brightly colored and very rare in home aquaria. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rs/index.php

KeMo · 10/24/2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar Magnolia

Aeolid nudibranchs eat zoas. What you saw is likely the amphipod grazing on detritus or algae between the zoa polyps. The predatory type of amphipod is brightly colored and very rare in home aquaria. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rs/index.php

Nope. The colony I had started to get eaten in around a week. It took about 1 week for them to eat about 6-8 heads of my small colony. They started after the new growth then whet after the bigger ones. I know this because I moved the colony up on my frag rack @ the top of tank. Within a few days there was new growth. So I placed a rock beside it so it would grow onto that rock. After if grew about 5 new heads on the new rock I placed the new rock down in the tank. Within 3 days it was pretty much gone. The problem in controlling these is they only come out at night. You will see none in the day. I have a mandarin in the tank and he sleeps @ night so that did not work 4 me.
Oh and I believe I said they looked like that not thats them as its really hard to id them. The ones I have are not a bright orange. So I dont no what to say but I have the evidence to prove it in my eyes with that frag rack test.

PGUY1 · 10/25/2010, 10:12 AM

I always turn my socks inside out when I take them out for cleaning purposes. I try and collect any pods and drop them in my return pump intake. They never hit the bottom before a fish snags them. Very entertaining.

XtremeFromHell · 10/25/2010, 09:46 PM

I just changed my filter sock today as well and had a bunch of them in there as well, i just threw some away because i have them crawing around in my sump, for fun i grabbed one with my syringe and threw it in my DT but non of my fish ate it, now im worried about my zoas!

mcoomer · 10/26/2010, 08:25 AM

OK...here's the deal. You need quite a few more but skewered and grilled with lemon and butter they're really quite tasty. Your fish will love you forever!

Mike

Floowid · 10/26/2010, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeFromHell

I just changed my filter sock today as well and had a bunch of them in there as well, i just threw some away because i have them crawing around in my sump, for fun i grabbed one with my syringe and threw it in my DT but non of my fish ate it, now im worried about my zoas!

Seriously, these pods pictured will not hurt your Zoas. Don't let anyone tell you different! The presence of large amphipods and smaller copepods in your system is always a good indicator.

allsps40 · 10/26/2010, 01:13 PM

^ yep

XrayGuy · 11/10/2010, 11:20 PM

Cool thank you! I was looking with a flashlight in my tank after lights out and could see all kinds of little pods crawling around on my rocks...must be a good sign as some of you have said =)

10/23/2010, 01:55 PM	#1
XrayGuy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 54	I found these in my sump sock alive...ID? Can someone tell me what these are and should I put them back in my tank or flush them? I switched my sump socks out today and these were crawling around in the dirty one. Thanks for any help you can give! __________________ * 55 gal reef with corner overflow * 15 gal sump * Sun System Teklight w/ 4x 54 watt T5HO * 2x Aqueon ACP 950 power head * EcoPlus 1056 return pump * Reef Octopus NW-110-6520B skimmer *

10/23/2010, 01:59 PM	#3
rssjsb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,243	amphipods - good scavengers and food for fish. put 'em back. __________________ Robin

10/23/2010, 02:01 PM	#5
XrayGuy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 54	Awesome, I will put them back. Thanks for the replies! __________________ * 55 gal reef with corner overflow * 15 gal sump * Sun System Teklight w/ 4x 54 watt T5HO * 2x Aqueon ACP 950 power head * EcoPlus 1056 return pump * Reef Octopus NW-110-6520B skimmer *

10/23/2010, 06:20 PM	#8
KeMo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 357	Watch out I had big pods like that in my DT that were Zoa munchers .Yea Yea I know what most will say they dont eat healthy coral. Just do I search on here as many have had that problem . do a search because those look to be what I had. zoanthid eating ampipods __________________ 39Gal Reef Tank. 40 Lbs Fiji LR , 25 Lbs Fiji LS DeltecMce600,MP10-es Specs-ph8.0-8.3,salinity1.024-6,calcium450,alkalinity,8.4-9.4,magnesium1400.Temp.77-78 Blue Mandarin,BTA,Mushroom,ToadStool,Torch,cuc Current Tank Info: 30 gal Reef

10/24/2010, 01:52 AM	#9
XrayGuy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 54	KeMo - I will keep an eye out for that because I do have quite a few zoas in my tank...I saw one of the little buggers crawling around one of the colonies a little bit ago after lights out, but he didnt seem to be eating. Extreme vulgarity removed. DO NOT DO THAT AGAIN __________________ * 55 gal reef with corner overflow * 15 gal sump * Sun System Teklight w/ 4x 54 watt T5HO * 2x Aqueon ACP 950 power head * EcoPlus 1056 return pump * Reef Octopus NW-110-6520B skimmer * Last edited by BrianD; 10/24/2010 at 10:03 AM.

10/23/2010, 01:59 PM	#2
Ben_Im Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Orinda, CA Posts: 734	Looks like amphipods to me. Harmless detritivore

10/23/2010, 02:00 PM	#4
drnihili Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 172	Amphipods! yay! Great Stuff. May you be blessed with thousands more. Keep em.

10/23/2010, 02:01 PM	#6
Waterobert Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel ,Ca Posts: 437	Good staff, put them back.

10/23/2010, 04:58 PM	#7
aleonn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,041	Wow, those amphipods are huge compared to the ones in my tank! Throw them back into the tank... free food for the fish!

10/24/2010, 06:40 AM	#10
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	FWIW - just killing the ones in your filter sock, even if they are bad (which I doubt - I have about a gazillion of them in my softy tank) will not even begin to dent the actual population. A flasher wrasse of one sort or another will certainly keep them in check. My orange back fairy wrasse picks at them all day, and is the fattest, happiest fish I have ever seen. HTH __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

10/25/2010, 10:12 AM	#13
PGUY1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: WILMINGTON, NC Posts: 208	I always turn my socks inside out when I take them out for cleaning purposes. I try and collect any pods and drop them in my return pump intake. They never hit the bottom before a fish snags them. Very entertaining.

10/25/2010, 09:46 PM	#14
XtremeFromHell Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Miami, FL (hialeah area) Posts: 735	I just changed my filter sock today as well and had a bunch of them in there as well, i just threw some away because i have them crawing around in my sump, for fun i grabbed one with my syringe and threw it in my DT but non of my fish ate it, now im worried about my zoas!

10/26/2010, 08:25 AM	#15
mcoomer Rat Bastard! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 1,487	OK...here's the deal. You need quite a few more but skewered and grilled with lemon and butter they're really quite tasty. Your fish will love you forever! Mike __________________ Spending exorbitant amounts of money on this hobby since 1998! My wife thought the tank would be cheaper and easier to keep than a dog...no seriously! Current Tank Info: 180 gallon mixed reef; Reeflo Barracuda, Tunze 6105 (X3), 250W Radiums with dual HQI Blue Wave 7, Reefkeeper Elite controller, custom sump with ASM G4, carbon and GFO reactors

10/26/2010, 01:13 PM	#17
allsps40 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,627	^ yep

11/10/2010, 11:20 PM	#18
XrayGuy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 54	Cool thank you! I was looking with a flashlight in my tank after lights out and could see all kinds of little pods crawling around on my rocks...must be a good sign as some of you have said =) __________________ * 55 gal reef with corner overflow * 15 gal sump * Sun System Teklight w/ 4x 54 watt T5HO * 2x Aqueon ACP 950 power head * EcoPlus 1056 return pump * Reef Octopus NW-110-6520B skimmer *

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