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Unread 12/01/2010, 03:16 PM   #1
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Puzzled about cycle

So, I set up my tank about 2 months ago with old rock and sand from when it was set up before. I cycled the tank with about 8 pounds of live rock from a LFS. My ammonia never peaked higher than .5. After the cycle was done I did a big water change to lower the nitrates as they had jumped up to 40, brought them down to 10. I never had a diatom bloom, which I thought was strange.

I waited a few days to make sure my levels were stable and tried adding a few small CUC critters. 2 snails and 2 hermit crabs both died. Drip acclimated them for a half hour.

So I thought...hey, maybe my tank didn't actually cycle? So I threw in a few shrimp in a filter bag to get the cycle going again. The ammonia and nitrite spiked to .5 and 2, respectively, and then bottomed out within a week...

Still no diatom bloom...what is going on here?


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Unread 12/01/2010, 03:24 PM   #2
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You don't need a diatom bloom. Most don't have one. Hair algae would be normal. Try another snail once you are unable to provoke ammonia out of this tank.


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Unread 12/01/2010, 03:29 PM   #3
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Did you rince the previous sand? or did you immedialy setup the tank as soon as you got it moved? Its never a good idea to use used sand without cleaning the heck outta of it.. I would have tossed it and bought new.. But thats me.. and got a cup of sand from a buddy to help seed it..


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Unread 12/01/2010, 03:59 PM   #4
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You don't need a diatom bloom. Most don't have one. Hair algae would be normal. Try another snail once you are unable to provoke ammonia out of this tank.
I see. I don't have any hair algae either. All I have is a tiny bit of pink coralline algae and what appears to be tiny spots of green coralline algae. Then the chaeto in my sump.

Something weird though, is the green coralline algae seems to be turning black on all of my rocks? One rock in particular has a lot of black spots on the side/top.

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Did you rince the previous sand? or did you immedialy setup the tank as soon as you got it moved? Its never a good idea to use used sand without cleaning the heck outta of it.. I would have tossed it and bought new.. But thats me.. and got a cup of sand from a buddy to help seed it..
Yes, I rinsed the sand as best I could. I filled the tank up about half full and siphoned out as much detritus as possible, then swirled the sand around with my hands for a while and then let a powerhead blow it around for a night. I will try to get a cup of established sand from somebody in the near future.


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Unread 12/01/2010, 04:22 PM   #5
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The tank is okay, and the "cycle" is over. You might try scrapping some of the black area on the live rock, to see what kind of consistency it has. You might be seeing a lot of things. Hard to judge at this point. It might be cyanobacteria fed by the shrimp.


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