Maroon clowns not eating in QT

JTrigger · 12/05/2010, 03:27 PM

In the last 24 hrs I added a pair of maroons in QT... standard setup, 15 gal barebottom tank with three PVC pieces, HOB filter (no carbon), powerhead,

Ammonia 0
Trites/Trates 0
Cupramine 0.5
Temp 78-80F

They haven't shown interest in typical new life spectrum pellets, PE mysis, or cyclopeeze. Female is swimming throughout QT, but male has a deflated dorsal fin swimming centrally located in the tank, but otherwise nothing much to report.

Any thoughts?

snorvich · 12/05/2010, 03:32 PM

Why are you treating them with copper?

JTrigger · 12/05/2010, 03:37 PM

Empiric treatment. Decision made after I lost a tankful of species not too long ago to ich.

willandmelsreef · 12/05/2010, 03:46 PM

Were they hosting an anenome...sometimes when they get seperated it takes them a couple of days to adjust

Sk8r · 12/05/2010, 03:52 PM

Cupramine depresses appetite. Copper toxicity will kill the ich parasite: for the fish it has various bad effects, too: damage to the sensory system, breakdown of red blood cells (anemia), also causes a protein reaction that increases mucus production, a reaction which suffocates or sloughs parasites, but which can also clog gills, causing hypoxia (shortage of oxygen) and also diminished excretion of waste through the skin, what mammals do when they sweat. Sources I have read suggest careful attention to aeration during use of copper because of the gill problem.

JTrigger · 12/05/2010, 03:57 PM

Noted Sk8r! FWIW, they each had their own BTA in the LFS.

airplanes1016 · 12/05/2010, 06:01 PM

matter of time, keep offering the food few time a day in small amounts and they will come around and be pigs soon..

Indymann99 · 12/05/2010, 06:06 PM

I would add to carefully watch your QT params... trying lots of different foods = lots of uneaten food.

SuperNemo · 12/05/2010, 09:50 PM

hey man i was in your same boat not too long ago. i use cupramine on all new fish regardless of whether i see or not see disease.

the one thing that worked for me was Rod's Fish food. its expensive, but the fish somehow always wants to eat it..

i also tried a variety of food and that seems to work best. give it a try.

JTrigger · 12/06/2010, 10:29 PM

Did a 25% water change last night and this morning the boy ate and continued to tonight like mad... girl mouths at some food, but spits it out... hmmm.. how long can fish go without eating before it'll significantly affect their health?

Humu Humu · 12/07/2010, 10:07 AM

I have a finicky angel in QT and tried soaking some mysis shrimp in a product called Seachem Entice, and this morning he took the bait. Try it, it may work for you. It has a faint garlic smell to it. Worked so far and I'm hoping for the best.

JTrigger · 12/07/2010, 11:36 AM

Might have to pick some up. Again, the male ate new marine pellets, PE Mysis, Cyclopeeze... female puts it in her mouth and spits it out... hmmm

Kweli · 12/07/2010, 12:39 PM

I typically wait about 2-3 days before I even attempt to feed a new fish...

I have never had a fish (in a new tank) eat in the first 24 hours

Let it relax

12/05/2010, 03:27 PM	#1
JTrigger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383	Maroon clowns not eating in QT In the last 24 hrs I added a pair of maroons in QT... standard setup, 15 gal barebottom tank with three PVC pieces, HOB filter (no carbon), powerhead, Ammonia 0 Trites/Trates 0 Cupramine 0.5 Temp 78-80F They haven't shown interest in typical new life spectrum pellets, PE mysis, or cyclopeeze. Female is swimming throughout QT, but male has a deflated dorsal fin swimming centrally located in the tank, but otherwise nothing much to report. Any thoughts?

12/05/2010, 03:32 PM	#2
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Why are you treating them with copper? __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

12/05/2010, 03:46 PM	#4
willandmelsreef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Indianapolis, In Posts: 182	Were they hosting an anenome...sometimes when they get seperated it takes them a couple of days to adjust __________________ WISHING I LIVED IN THE CORAL TRIANGLE Current Tank Info: 90g mixed reef

12/05/2010, 03:52 PM	#5
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Cupramine depresses appetite. Copper toxicity will kill the ich parasite: for the fish it has various bad effects, too: damage to the sensory system, breakdown of red blood cells (anemia), also causes a protein reaction that increases mucus production, a reaction which suffocates or sloughs parasites, but which can also clog gills, causing hypoxia (shortage of oxygen) and also diminished excretion of waste through the skin, what mammals do when they sweat. Sources I have read suggest careful attention to aeration during use of copper because of the gill problem. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

12/05/2010, 06:06 PM	#8
Indymann99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,447	I would add to carefully watch your QT params... trying lots of different foods = lots of uneaten food. __________________ 120g DT 100lbs LR / 200 lbs LS, 45g fuge, VectraM1 Return, Herbie drain, 4x RW-8, 2x AI Hydra 26 w AWM, ASM G2, Apex controller, Apex BoB w floats ATO

12/05/2010, 03:37 PM	#3
JTrigger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383	Empiric treatment. Decision made after I lost a tankful of species not too long ago to ich.

12/05/2010, 03:57 PM	#6
JTrigger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383	Noted Sk8r! FWIW, they each had their own BTA in the LFS.

12/05/2010, 06:01 PM	#7
airplanes1016 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 197	matter of time, keep offering the food few time a day in small amounts and they will come around and be pigs soon..

12/05/2010, 09:50 PM	#9
SuperNemo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 524	hey man i was in your same boat not too long ago. i use cupramine on all new fish regardless of whether i see or not see disease. the one thing that worked for me was Rod's Fish food. its expensive, but the fish somehow always wants to eat it.. i also tried a variety of food and that seems to work best. give it a try.

12/06/2010, 10:29 PM	#10
JTrigger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383	Did a 25% water change last night and this morning the boy ate and continued to tonight like mad... girl mouths at some food, but spits it out... hmmm.. how long can fish go without eating before it'll significantly affect their health?

12/07/2010, 10:07 AM	#11
Humu Humu lost in the pelagic zone Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 207	I have a finicky angel in QT and tried soaking some mysis shrimp in a product called Seachem Entice, and this morning he took the bait. Try it, it may work for you. It has a faint garlic smell to it. Worked so far and I'm hoping for the best.

12/07/2010, 11:36 AM	#12
JTrigger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383	Might have to pick some up. Again, the male ate new marine pellets, PE Mysis, Cyclopeeze... female puts it in her mouth and spits it out... hmmm

12/07/2010, 12:39 PM	#13
Kweli Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 221	I typically wait about 2-3 days before I even attempt to feed a new fish... I have never had a fish (in a new tank) eat in the first 24 hours Let it relax

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