eheim versus waterblaster

dpstrand · 02/22/2011, 06:35 PM

I'm putting together an 85 gallon setup that I picked up used from a fellow RC-er nickrosenthal. I'm trying to decide between return pumps, one problem is the hole drilled is for a tiny return (1/2"). I'm debating between an eheim 1260 or 1262 versus a waterblaster hy-3000w or hy-5000w.

There's not a lot of info on the water blaster pumps, but they seem to consume less power than eheim. Has anyone compared these two pumps on their own tank? How do other attributes compare (noise, size, reliability, startup, etc)?

Also if anyone is selling any of these 4 pumps used for a good price, I would be quite interested!

oscar.millan · 02/22/2011, 07:15 PM

I love the Eheim pumps, for a 85 gallon you don't need the 1262. Go with the 1260.

solitude127 · 02/22/2011, 07:20 PM

Eheim, made in Germany(or someplace in Europe)
WaterBlaster, made in China.

jcolletteiii · 02/22/2011, 09:44 PM

The incredible finish, box full of all kinds of adapters, very, very low noise level, superb quality, and lower electricity usage of the waterblaster get my vote. Along with the warranty (either 3 or 5 yrs, I forget). Oh, don't forget the nitride shaft that calcifying algae cannot grow on.

Txcowboy22 · 02/22/2011, 11:32 PM

waterblaster 100%! eheims are good quality but energy hogs for their output. Plus you get 3 years warranty on the waterblaster

oscar.millan · 02/22/2011, 11:57 PM

3 years for Eheim as well, who's had a water blaster running for more than 5 years? This is not uncommon for Eheim, however, sounds like there are benefits to both.

I think if longevity is there for water blasters then it simply comes down to preference.

Good luck with your selection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txcowboy22

waterblaster 100%! eheims are good quality but energy hogs for their output. Plus you get 3 years warranty on the waterblaster

Txcowboy22 · 02/23/2011, 12:00 AM

no one these are new pumps man, PCIscott needs to chime in here but I know these are high quality pumps and will last. I actually use ATI flowstar 1800 but they are pricey ($450!), I am probably going to get the waterblaster 5000 for my display, 1300 GPH at 60 watts and $200 you cant beat that! Plus a three year warranty, no other pump can match that.......

laverda · 02/23/2011, 12:02 AM

Look into Tunze Return pumps. If your looking at a Eheim 1260, look at the Tunze 1073.040 They use a lot less power and put out more water then Eheim and cost $28.00 less to boot! I have one and love it. Tunze also sells bigger return pumps, but not many places stock them. That should be plenty for an 85 gallon tank.

Tunze 1073.040: 3,000 l/h (792 USgal./h). Energy consumption: 42 W. Pumping head: 3 m (118.1 in.).
$137.81

eheim 1260 635 gph. Energy consumption:65W. Pumping head:12'1" $164.99

Txcowboy22 · 02/23/2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by laverda

Look into Tunze Return pumps. They use less power and but out more water then Eheim for just a little more $, depending on what size your looking at.

Yeah, the bigger Tunze silence is a good option. I ran that for a while much better than the ehiem and proven and even less watts like 40. Very good but only around 800 gph but MUCH more bang per watt than the eheims.....

psykokid · 02/23/2011, 12:07 AM

They also make a controllable Tunze silence now. Would be nice for day / night simulations..

aleonn · 02/23/2011, 01:26 PM

My Water Blaster works great (HY-7000). I chose it over the Eheim because of energy/heat considerations, but you can't go wrong with either pump IMO.

dpstrand · 03/02/2011, 11:08 AM

I think I am going to try out the waterblaster. Where is a good place to buy one?

psykokid · 03/02/2011, 11:27 AM

socal tropical fish carries them

nguyenmi · 03/02/2011, 11:41 AM

I am planning to buy one as well Model 5000. Pretty much most vendors have the same prices. I'll email Tom @ Socal Tropical Fish

solitude127 · 03/02/2011, 11:51 AM

Please let us know how you guys like them

nguyenmi · 03/02/2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpstrand

I think I am going to try out the waterblaster. Where is a good place to buy one?

Dpstrand -- Tom has them in-stock by the way.

Txcowboy22 · 03/02/2011, 12:12 PM

I order a waterblaster 5000 from premium aquatics monday! Ill keep you updated.

BeanMachine · 03/02/2011, 12:22 PM

Yes, post some feedback when you guys get them. I was thinking of going with a Tunze return pump if my eheim ever goes out. This eheim 1262 is several years old and still going strong.

solitude127 · 03/02/2011, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeanMachine

Yes, post some feedback when you guys get them. I was thinking of going with a Tunze return pump if my eheim ever goes out. This eheim 1262 is several years old and still going strong.

If you waiting for your Eheim to break, you might be waiting for a very long time. One guy said he was using the same pump for 10 yrs.

02/22/2011, 06:35 PM	#1
dpstrand Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 897	eheim versus waterblaster I'm putting together an 85 gallon setup that I picked up used from a fellow RC-er nickrosenthal. I'm trying to decide between return pumps, one problem is the hole drilled is for a tiny return (1/2"). I'm debating between an eheim 1260 or 1262 versus a waterblaster hy-3000w or hy-5000w. There's not a lot of info on the water blaster pumps, but they seem to consume less power than eheim. Has anyone compared these two pumps on their own tank? How do other attributes compare (noise, size, reliability, startup, etc)? Also if anyone is selling any of these 4 pumps used for a good price, I would be quite interested!

02/22/2011, 07:15 PM	#2
oscar.millan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,003	I love the Eheim pumps, for a 85 gallon you don't need the 1262. Go with the 1260. __________________ "Let the future tell the truth and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine." -Tesla Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef, 90g rimless cube.

02/22/2011, 07:20 PM	#3
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	Eheim, made in Germany(or someplace in Europe) WaterBlaster, made in China. __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

02/22/2011, 09:44 PM	#4
jcolletteiii Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 58703 Posts: 1,265	The incredible finish, box full of all kinds of adapters, very, very low noise level, superb quality, and lower electricity usage of the waterblaster get my vote. Along with the warranty (either 3 or 5 yrs, I forget). Oh, don't forget the nitride shaft that calcifying algae cannot grow on. __________________ T5-powered (ex-LED club member) SPS-dominant 50g. Cadlights CUBE. Current Tank Info: 16g biocube

02/23/2011, 12:02 AM	#8
laverda Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 6,902	Look into Tunze Return pumps. If your looking at a Eheim 1260, look at the Tunze 1073.040 They use a lot less power and put out more water then Eheim and cost $28.00 less to boot! I have one and love it. Tunze also sells bigger return pumps, but not many places stock them. That should be plenty for an 85 gallon tank. Tunze 1073.040: 3,000 l/h (792 USgal./h). Energy consumption: 42 W. Pumping head: 3 m (118.1 in.). $137.81 eheim 1260 635 gph. Energy consumption:65W. Pumping head:12'1" $164.99 __________________ 240G mixed reef, 29G SPS/LPS clam tank, 50G mixed reef Current Tank Info: 300g mixed reef, 50g cube Last edited by laverda; 02/23/2011 at 12:26 AM.

02/22/2011, 11:32 PM	#5
Txcowboy22 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: long beach Posts: 2,098	waterblaster 100%! eheims are good quality but energy hogs for their output. Plus you get 3 years warranty on the waterblaster

02/23/2011, 12:00 AM	#7
Txcowboy22 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: long beach Posts: 2,098	no one these are new pumps man, PCIscott needs to chime in here but I know these are high quality pumps and will last. I actually use ATI flowstar 1800 but they are pricey ($450!), I am probably going to get the waterblaster 5000 for my display, 1300 GPH at 60 watts and $200 you cant beat that! Plus a three year warranty, no other pump can match that.......

02/23/2011, 12:07 AM	#10
psykokid Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 1,454	They also make a controllable Tunze silence now. Would be nice for day / night simulations..

02/23/2011, 01:26 PM	#11
aleonn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,041	My Water Blaster works great (HY-7000). I chose it over the Eheim because of energy/heat considerations, but you can't go wrong with either pump IMO.

03/02/2011, 11:08 AM	#12
dpstrand Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 897	I think I am going to try out the waterblaster. Where is a good place to buy one?

03/02/2011, 11:27 AM	#13
psykokid Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 1,454	socal tropical fish carries them

03/02/2011, 11:41 AM	#14
nguyenmi Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 366	I am planning to buy one as well Model 5000. Pretty much most vendors have the same prices. I'll email Tom @ Socal Tropical Fish

03/02/2011, 11:51 AM	#15
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	Please let us know how you guys like them __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

03/02/2011, 12:12 PM	#17
Txcowboy22 Moved On Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: long beach Posts: 2,098	I order a waterblaster 5000 from premium aquatics monday! Ill keep you updated.

03/02/2011, 12:22 PM	#18
BeanMachine Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 11,200	Yes, post some feedback when you guys get them. I was thinking of going with a Tunze return pump if my eheim ever goes out. This eheim 1262 is several years old and still going strong. __________________ 300 Gallon 72x36x27 AGE- 4x Ecotech XR30G5 Blue- AA PVC Hybrid Sump- Dual Synergy Shadow Boxes w Bean Animal- RO 220INT Elite- AquaMaxx cTech T3 CaRx- RD3 230- Apex- Tunze 6155, 6255 & 6150- MP40

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