What Pump should I get??? 135g w/50g sump.

keaokun · 03/20/2011, 05:34 PM

Hi Guys,

I'm starting a new tank. 135 gallons with a 50 gallon sump. Never did a project like this before and am wondering what kind of pump I should get...

Brand? GPH??

Any advice would be great!

rkaires · 03/20/2011, 06:12 PM

An Eheim 1260 would be a great pump for your system.

keaokun · 03/20/2011, 08:17 PM

Thanks! I'll look that up!

One more question.

If I have 1200 GPH with a Fuge in the middle, will that be too much waterflow in the Fudge? Should I put the Fuge at the end with the return in the middle?

ItsNotJustFish · 03/20/2011, 08:34 PM

its all about contact time imo, so the faster it goes the less contact time the fuge gets with the water
ive always been a big believer of slower returns from the sump and use either powerheads or closed loops for flow in the system
i like eheims and oceanrunners personally, low wattage and very quiet

keaokun · 03/20/2011, 11:04 PM

Do you think I should get a pump with less gph? how much gph is sufficient?

Also, if I have two 750 GPH Circulation pumps in the 135 display tank (72" long x 18 x 25) Will that be too much current??

Lastly, is Ehiem better than RIO in pumps?

Thanks guys!

pmrossetti · 03/20/2011, 11:10 PM

you want 3-5 times your 135g. 400-700gph after your head pressure.
Eheim is much better than rio, so is a mag drive.

keaokun · 03/20/2011, 11:16 PM

Thanks for the input. The guy at the fish store told me to get around 900 GPH.. seems high.. wonder why he would tell me that.

pmrossetti · 03/20/2011, 11:23 PM

just his opinoin, I guess. Maybe he meant 900 before head pressure.

don't need that much. much quieter with my rec imho.

rkaires · 03/21/2011, 05:45 AM

Personal I like to stay around 3 to 5 times the system volume through the sump. My system is closer to 3 times. Some interesting discussion on low flow sumps.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1993436

http://coralmagazine.coverleaf.com/c...m=2&fs=1#pg118

keaokun · 03/22/2011, 01:35 AM

Thanks rkaires.

Can you resend those links? They are not working...

rkaires · 03/22/2011, 07:45 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1993436

http://coralmagazine.coverleaf.com/c...m=2&fs=1#pg118

Fuzzy · 03/22/2011, 08:37 AM

Thank you for the links!

I'm in the process of re-working my pumps and was seriously considering a low flow sump. This thread and the links pretty much sold me.

Our tank is a 150, I'm thinking of using an Eheim 1260 for the sump. And a pair of Vortech MP40w's for additional flow in tank. So that puts me at about a bit less than 4 x volume after head height in the sump.

trmiv · 03/22/2011, 08:39 AM

I'm a big believer in Eheim pumps, so I'd definitely go that route. I have a 1260 on my 65 and will use the same pump on my new 60g cube. I just restrict the flow with a ball valve to get the flow I want. This 1260 has gone strong for over 5 years, restarts every single time, and doesn't even get cleaned that often. Solid solid pumps.

03/20/2011, 05:34 PM	#1
keaokun Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	What Pump should I get??? 135g w/50g sump. Hi Guys, I'm starting a new tank. 135 gallons with a 50 gallon sump. Never did a project like this before and am wondering what kind of pump I should get... Brand? GPH?? Any advice would be great!

03/20/2011, 06:12 PM	#2
rkaires Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Posts: 1,083	An Eheim 1260 would be a great pump for your system. __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 200gal system, 150gal & 58gal reef, ATI Powermodule & Sunpower , ATB Deluxe skimmer, KZ zeo reactor, Geo 618, FX1500 return, Tunze 7095, Tunze Streams.

03/21/2011, 05:45 AM	#9
rkaires Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Posts: 1,083	Personal I like to stay around 3 to 5 times the system volume through the sump. My system is closer to 3 times. Some interesting discussion on low flow sumps. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1993436 http://coralmagazine.coverleaf.com/c...m=2&fs=1#pg118 __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 200gal system, 150gal & 58gal reef, ATI Powermodule & Sunpower , ATB Deluxe skimmer, KZ zeo reactor, Geo 618, FX1500 return, Tunze 7095, Tunze Streams.

03/22/2011, 07:45 AM	#11
rkaires Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Posts: 1,083	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1993436 http://coralmagazine.coverleaf.com/c...m=2&fs=1#pg118 __________________ Bob Current Tank Info: 200gal system, 150gal & 58gal reef, ATI Powermodule & Sunpower , ATB Deluxe skimmer, KZ zeo reactor, Geo 618, FX1500 return, Tunze 7095, Tunze Streams.

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03/20/2011, 08:17 PM	#3
keaokun Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	Thanks! I'll look that up! One more question. If I have 1200 GPH with a Fuge in the middle, will that be too much waterflow in the Fudge? Should I put the Fuge at the end with the return in the middle?

03/20/2011, 08:34 PM	#4
ItsNotJustFish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SFL Posts: 15	its all about contact time imo, so the faster it goes the less contact time the fuge gets with the water ive always been a big believer of slower returns from the sump and use either powerheads or closed loops for flow in the system i like eheims and oceanrunners personally, low wattage and very quiet

03/20/2011, 11:04 PM	#5
keaokun Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	Do you think I should get a pump with less gph? how much gph is sufficient? Also, if I have two 750 GPH Circulation pumps in the 135 display tank (72" long x 18 x 25) Will that be too much current?? Lastly, is Ehiem better than RIO in pumps? Thanks guys!

03/20/2011, 11:10 PM	#6
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	you want 3-5 times your 135g. 400-700gph after your head pressure. Eheim is much better than rio, so is a mag drive.

03/20/2011, 11:16 PM	#7
keaokun Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	Thanks for the input. The guy at the fish store told me to get around 900 GPH.. seems high.. wonder why he would tell me that.

03/20/2011, 11:23 PM	#8
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	just his opinoin, I guess. Maybe he meant 900 before head pressure. don't need that much. much quieter with my rec imho.

03/22/2011, 01:35 AM	#10
keaokun Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	Thanks rkaires. Can you resend those links? They are not working...

03/22/2011, 08:37 AM	#12
Fuzzy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,086	Thank you for the links! I'm in the process of re-working my pumps and was seriously considering a low flow sump. This thread and the links pretty much sold me. Our tank is a 150, I'm thinking of using an Eheim 1260 for the sump. And a pair of Vortech MP40w's for additional flow in tank. So that puts me at about a bit less than 4 x volume after head height in the sump.

03/22/2011, 08:39 AM	#13
trmiv Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,082	I'm a big believer in Eheim pumps, so I'd definitely go that route. I have a 1260 on my 65 and will use the same pump on my new 60g cube. I just restrict the flow with a ball valve to get the flow I want. This 1260 has gone strong for over 5 years, restarts every single time, and doesn't even get cleaned that often. Solid solid pumps.