is 1x Vortech mp40w enough for a 4x2x2 tank ?

chercm · 02/27/2011, 08:59 AM

anyone ?

is it enough ?

i placed on the right hand side but i am having difficulty in getting the wave , what is the best mode?

KSzegi · 02/27/2011, 10:10 AM

I currently have 1 mp40 on a 48 x 18 x24 90 gallon tank .... and do not think it is nearly enough flow by itself.... and this is with an open aquascape and minimal livestock - I have a 2nd one coming. Two might be overkill but I can run one or both at less than max if it is.

As far as getting a wave ..... don't think it can be done with just one!

milkman55 · 02/27/2011, 10:15 AM

I have two MP40w on my 4x2x2 120 gal. I have them on opposite sides running lagoon random in anti-sync mode. Works great for SPS tanks.

If you are going mostly soft and LPS, one MP40 would be fine. We had a display 120 gal at the LFS and it only had one MP40, looked great!

IMO, waves are over rated and put stress on the seams of your tank. Random movement is all that's needed.

paraphish · 03/03/2011, 02:29 PM

A second MP40 would be ideal. Especially if you have a lot of rockwork.

hammerfrog · 03/31/2011, 04:50 PM

I had an mp 40w for my 75 on wave mode. After a month it busted the seems on my tank.
I upgraded to a 90 gallon with thicker glass. I continued to run on short pulse mode but eventually switched to reef crest mode.
I have a mixed reef. Mostly soft corals and lps. 1 mp 40w was perfect. Anymore flow and my frogspawns , torches and hammers would have receded.
Just my two cents.

award212 · 03/31/2011, 07:24 PM

1 MP40 would be fine for soft coral and lps. If you have SPS you'll probably want two or a MP40 + a MP10.

Pallobi · 03/31/2011, 07:40 PM

not in my opinion, i have 2 on my 75g, and i wouldnt min another 10-20% out of them, but i am very happy with'em... without 2, you wont have the same turbulent, random flow and you would have a dead side of the tank... they are made to work together, and can control water motion even further by having 2 working together...

amazing little pumps, the best investment i have made for my system... whether you end up with 2 or not, they are well worth even 1...

Pallobi · 03/31/2011, 07:43 PM

btw, i dont use any wave modes, agreed with above, not good for your tank at all... i use anti-sync'd, tidal crest mode, with some full power constant speed for at least a couple hours a day as well

hpfunk · 03/31/2011, 10:15 PM

Any Vortech pump over the MP20 was meant to be run in pairs. That is not an opinion, it is in the manual (not in those words). I have two MP40's that made my old 90gal SPS corals grow 6 to 8 inches a year. Now that I upgraded to 72x24x24 and I think I am going to get two more...or maybe two MP60's???

tkeracer619 · 03/31/2011, 10:55 PM

I like lagoon mode and reef crest.

FishSandwich · 04/01/2011, 05:03 AM

I have two mp40s - 60x18x30. reef crest mode @ 100% is just right. It's like a treadmill for fish.

HowieB · 04/01/2011, 03:48 PM

I have 1 in my 120 (48 x 24 x 24) on the left side. Works fine. Reef crest mode at about 75%. I did add a Korallia 4 on the other side that goes on 5 minutes every hour just to kick things up a bit.

rdlisby · 04/01/2011, 04:05 PM

I ran one on my 6x2x2 180 for over a year in lagoon mode full power. Everything was fine, my sps were growing just fine for my liking. I did add another one a few months ago and the flow is obviously better but I think it did fine with one. If you can get two then do that but if the budget limits you to one for now do that and save up for the next one.

chercm · 04/01/2011, 06:57 PM

is it better to run the reef crest or lagoon ?

award212 · 04/02/2011, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chercm

is it better to run the reef crest or lagoon ?

It's really just your preference, give both a try and see what you and your corals like better.

johnnydoe · 04/02/2011, 12:14 PM

i have a 75gal im running mp40w es and a mp10w es , as for mode i still havent figured what i like . i kinda like the reef crest and NTM . id like to see a poll on what everyone else is using . sps and lps

02/27/2011, 08:59 AM	#1
chercm Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,971	is 1x Vortech mp40w enough for a 4x2x2 tank ? anyone ? is it enough ? i placed on the right hand side but i am having difficulty in getting the wave , what is the best mode?

03/31/2011, 07:40 PM	#7
Pallobi CTARS, BRS & OSRAS Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,001	not in my opinion, i have 2 on my 75g, and i wouldnt min another 10-20% out of them, but i am very happy with'em... without 2, you wont have the same turbulent, random flow and you would have a dead side of the tank... they are made to work together, and can control water motion even further by having 2 working together... amazing little pumps, the best investment i have made for my system... whether you end up with 2 or not, they are well worth even 1... __________________ Zoas & Palys

03/31/2011, 07:43 PM	#8
Pallobi CTARS, BRS & OSRAS Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,001	btw, i dont use any wave modes, agreed with above, not good for your tank at all... i use anti-sync'd, tidal crest mode, with some full power constant speed for at least a couple hours a day as well __________________ Zoas & Palys

03/31/2011, 10:15 PM	#9
hpfunk Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 130	Any Vortech pump over the MP20 was meant to be run in pairs. That is not an opinion, it is in the manual (not in those words). I have two MP40's that made my old 90gal SPS corals grow 6 to 8 inches a year. Now that I upgraded to 72x24x24 and I think I am going to get two more...or maybe two MP60's??? __________________ Hpfunk 300g and counting. Current Tank Info: Born on 3-15-2010, 180 display, 120 ref., and plans for a 100g frag tank

03/31/2011, 10:55 PM	#10
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	I like lagoon mode and reef crest. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

02/27/2011, 10:10 AM	#2
KSzegi Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 278	I currently have 1 mp40 on a 48 x 18 x24 90 gallon tank .... and do not think it is nearly enough flow by itself.... and this is with an open aquascape and minimal livestock - I have a 2nd one coming. Two might be overkill but I can run one or both at less than max if it is. As far as getting a wave ..... don't think it can be done with just one!

02/27/2011, 10:15 AM	#3
milkman55 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Parkville, MO Posts: 832	I have two MP40w on my 4x2x2 120 gal. I have them on opposite sides running lagoon random in anti-sync mode. Works great for SPS tanks. If you are going mostly soft and LPS, one MP40 would be fine. We had a display 120 gal at the LFS and it only had one MP40, looked great! IMO, waves are over rated and put stress on the seams of your tank. Random movement is all that's needed.

03/03/2011, 02:29 PM	#4
paraphish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 52	A second MP40 would be ideal. Especially if you have a lot of rockwork.

03/31/2011, 04:50 PM	#5
hammerfrog Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 117	I had an mp 40w for my 75 on wave mode. After a month it busted the seems on my tank. I upgraded to a 90 gallon with thicker glass. I continued to run on short pulse mode but eventually switched to reef crest mode. I have a mixed reef. Mostly soft corals and lps. 1 mp 40w was perfect. Anymore flow and my frogspawns , torches and hammers would have receded. Just my two cents.

03/31/2011, 07:24 PM	#6
award212 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sayre, PA Posts: 131	1 MP40 would be fine for soft coral and lps. If you have SPS you'll probably want two or a MP40 + a MP10.

04/01/2011, 05:03 AM	#11
FishSandwich Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 40	I have two mp40s - 60x18x30. reef crest mode @ 100% is just right. It's like a treadmill for fish.

04/01/2011, 03:48 PM	#12
HowieB Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: LaMirada, California Posts: 393	I have 1 in my 120 (48 x 24 x 24) on the left side. Works fine. Reef crest mode at about 75%. I did add a Korallia 4 on the other side that goes on 5 minutes every hour just to kick things up a bit. __________________ 120G mixed reef Current Tank Info: 120G Starfire, BRS dosers, Speedwave DC10000II pump, Aquamaxx skimmer, Reefkeeper Elite, 1 Vortech, , MR1 Phosphate reactor, ATI Sunpower 6x54

04/01/2011, 04:05 PM	#13
rdlisby Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 324	I ran one on my 6x2x2 180 for over a year in lagoon mode full power. Everything was fine, my sps were growing just fine for my liking. I did add another one a few months ago and the flow is obviously better but I think it did fine with one. If you can get two then do that but if the budget limits you to one for now do that and save up for the next one.

04/01/2011, 06:57 PM	#14
chercm Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,971	is it better to run the reef crest or lagoon ?

04/02/2011, 12:14 PM	#16
johnnydoe Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: pa . Posts: 290	i have a 75gal im running mp40w es and a mp10w es , as for mode i still havent figured what i like . i kinda like the reef crest and NTM . id like to see a poll on what everyone else is using . sps and lps

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