Vortech vs tune nano wavebox for 120

[chadfarmer]

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

interesting. If this is the case I'd like to hear all the details

nope that means i have 800 dollars of pump not running when i had a tank full of sps (in my mind thats not right)

[cobra9]

btw I have gen2 MP40's and in 3 years I have had the wetside fall off once. It was after over a year of straight use with no cleaning. It can happen but if everything is right it shouldnt happen, but do to the design it can happen.

[cham]

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

seek to create a gyre- not waves.

Vortech is the choice.

I completely agree.


I've owned most of the power heads in this hobby from the economy stuff to the high end Tunze with multicontroller and you'll pry my Vortechs out of my cold dead hand. IMHO the wave "gadgets" are more for the hobbiest and less for the corals, waves do little to dislodge/suspend detritus and don't move very much water. Set them to 100% and let them rock.

After trying one Vortech I sold off my Tunze stuff.


I'll also add that Vortech customer service is A+. If you have a problem (even out of warranty) theres a good chance if you email them they'll hook you up. Unessesary but definately appreciated by this reefer.

[cham]

One last comment, if you have sand hands down run Vortechs. The random wide flow is unbeatable

[lacosta28]

I have 2 mp40's on my tank. The first one I bought is pretty loud and the manu date is april 2010. The sound doesn't bother me at all so I bought another mp40 2 weeks ago. The manu date on that one is april 5th 2011. I thought the thing was broken because I cannot hear it running at all. Just to be sure I turned off every other piece of eqiupment except the new mp40 and put it on high. Without looking at the tank I wouldn't have known it was on. I put my ear right on it and barely heard a slight hum.

I have not ownded any other brand so I can't comment on them. I am however very satisfied with my vortechs and would not purchase any other brand after owning them. I have to admit when I first got in the hobby I made the purchase solely based on looks and features. 1) Wireless communication. I was even able to upgrade the firmware on my older mp40 wirelessly in 3 minutes and you only need 2 to take advantage of eco smart mode. Can do sync, anti sync, or by the position in ES (same side, opposite, or back of tank) 2) Magnetic... no need to say more. 3) The controller to me is awesome. It's small, very easy to use, and looks great. Not some big ugly thing you try to hide. 4) The final thing that sold me was the look of the pump. The propeller and the exceptionally small footprint in the tank with no cords. All other pumps to me just look hideous which is almost always the wrong reason to purchase something but for me this time it worked out. I know all my intial reasons for purchasing the vortech were wrong but after everything I have learned I would still purchase vortech over any other.

That is just my opinion and is not fact. Does not mean it is the best for anyone else, just was the best for me.
I have no idea what they have done to the new one but I wish my other one was this quiet.

[scsuboy18]

Well...I certainly don't have an MP40 and can't speak on the noise, but I do have an MP10...non ecosmart....you can hear it, but it's not overbearing and my tank is in the living room. The intensity is at 100%

[Gary Majchrzak]

Originally Posted by chadfarmer

nope that means i have 800 dollars of pump not running when i had a tank full of sps (in my mind thats not right)

something definitely wasn't right.... I find it odd you won't share with others what happened. Your Vortechs were only a few months old and the wet side fell off... or the dry side?

I've had Tunze Streams jump off their magnet mount. I've had other 'Streams' pivot to a crazy angle on their magnet mount. I've never heard of a properly mounted and secured Vortech falling off.

[sjm817]

Wet sides falling off is not unheard of. Check the EcoTech vendor forum. There have been many posts of this. Its happened to me many times. The drive shaft seizes up or gets tight in the ceramic bearing, the whole wetside spins and falls off the glass. The dry side is still attached to the glass assuming you are using the stick on cord mounts.

[Gary Majchrzak]

is this problem (drive shaft seizes up or gets tight in the ceramic bearing)
happening in new units?

Might it be a problem associated with calcium/alkalinity being too high?
(For example: Tunzes and MaxiJets are practically indestructible but can seize up if calcium/alkalinity is too high).

[sjm817]

My units were not real new, but had the latest driveshafts in them which brought them up to "current specs". My ca/alk levels were pretty typical 400-425/8-9.5. My supplements were Kalk ATO and BRS 2 part. Everyone's water parameters are different so it may well have something to do with it.