Top 10 Nano Reef FIsh - Page 10

Korrine · 11/20/2009, 08:10 PM

garden eel? They can be REALLY hard to care for. Not recommended for that small of a tank since they are carnivorous. Meaty proteins soil the water a lot faster.

Korrine · 11/20/2009, 08:11 PM

Here's a link to a garden eel thread. Neat looking eels for sure

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1677284

cherubfish pair · 11/20/2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cherubfish pair

.....goes back to 2006.

I was wrong, 2005.

cherubfish pair · 11/20/2009, 08:24 PM

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Meaty proteins soil the water a lot faster. ~Korrine

I have an ASM G3 on my 33 gallon soon to be dosing O3 into it.

Korrine · 11/20/2009, 08:35 PM

ok wasn't referring to you cherub, I was directing that toward the person that asked about an eel in a small tank

powers2001 · 11/20/2009, 08:43 PM

Yeah, I asked. Korrine I think you missed cherub's link. It's not about garden eels.

Korrine · 11/20/2009, 08:57 PM

lol sorry. I probably missed. Didn't read to much. But that thread of the Magrove is pretty cool

cherubfish pair · 11/20/2009, 08:59 PM

I don't think anybody has mentioned a Blackcap Basslet yet.

Korrine · 11/20/2009, 09:03 PM

ok now all 3 kids are in bed. I'll go back and check what I missed

ok I see it now. Our postings are only 4 minutes apart. Very possible I was typing as cherub was posting. Sorry for missing it.

nirvanaandtool · 11/21/2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cherubfish pair

I don't think anybody has mentioned a Blackcap Basslet yet.

Beautiful fish.
Had one but it got ich and died in QT before I could get a full treatment of Cupramine in the tank.

Had great color - that black cap contrasted so well against the bright purple body. Wish it would have made it.

Elysia · 11/22/2009, 07:21 PM

I have a black cap. They can get rather large, are pigs, like to "rearrange" the tank, and are not the best tankmates for timid, peaceful fish.

f1shb0y · 11/24/2009, 06:52 PM

1. picasso clowns
2 any other rare clowns
3. black/white percula clown
4. false percula
5. tomato clown
6. just about every goby
7. purple dotty back
8. green chromis

thats bout all i got

chris.rivera3 · 11/25/2009, 04:37 PM

These guys looks soooo cool....Do they all get along together???

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Originally Posted by gobygoddess

All of your fish sound great, and if they work for you then thats all that matters

I currently have a 12g goby only, acan tank! I have....
2 Rose Antenna Gobies
1 Purple Fire
1 Orange Fire
1 Cave Goby
Rose antenna goby

Cave Goby

All these fish do great in my JBJ 12g nano! Let me know what you think.

jrainey · 11/25/2009, 06:18 PM

I like the Rose Antenna Gobies. What do you feed them?

JJIM · 11/28/2009, 10:24 AM

No one has mentioned the Fridmani Pseudochromis tank bred or neon Pseudochromis tank bred that I have seen? I am guessing because of their aggressive tendencies at times. I am looking at getting one of these, always liked them and they will add nice color contrast. Has anyone tried one of these sometimes temperamental little guys? I am also looking at adding the 6 line wrasse. The purpose of these two is twofold, one I really like their personality and movement (more so the 6 line for movement), and they control any unnecessary worms. If I do go with these two, which I hope to, they will be the last editions to the tank, letting the other more peaceful members get acclimated.

Here is what I plan on putting in my 28 nano when it arrives (being delivered atm). I will narrow down my list by a few when it comes down to it, but these are all possible contenders. I know fewer fish generally is better, but how many could I effectively keep with my corrals?

*Tail Spot Blenny (if any bad algae they control it ..woot)
6 line
Fridmani Pseudochromis or neon (hopefully)
*Banded Longfin Basslett
Greenbanded Goby
1 Purple Fire Goby
1 Orange Fire Goby
*percula clown tank raised
*Yellow Watchman
Hi Fin Red Banded Goby
Blue Flasher Fairy Wrasse

*asteric denotes reserved spot in my tank, others are up for grabs...

Elysia · 11/29/2009, 04:06 PM

JJIM -- Do you know the scientific name for your "banded longfin basslet?" I'm not familiar with that one, and so many groups of fish are associated w/ the common name "basslet" -- dwarf seabasses and reef basslets of the family Serranidae, Gramma spp., Pseudochromids, and sometimes even Longfins. Whatever it is, it could cause problems if it is too similar in shape/size/habit as some of your other choices.

Anyroad, I think I mentioned the captive bred dottybacks that are native to the Red Sea in my top 10. That would include Pseduochromis flavivertex (sunrise dottyback), P. fridmani (orchid dottyback), P. sankeyi (Sankey's dottyback), and P. springeri (Springer's dottyback), as well as a hybrid between Sankey's and the sunrise (?) Each of these species are reported to be adaptable, reasonably hardy fish that are less aggressive than the typical dottyback. This less aggressive nature apparently comes from the fact that many of these fish live in apparrently dense groups in their native habitat, although I have read that captive breeding has increased the trait of decreased aggression. However, I talked to someone at ORA at MACNA this year, and I asked if they were having any success in breeding some of the "mean" out of P. aldabraensis, the Arabian blueline dottyback (or "neon" dottyback), and he told me that the captive reared fish appear no less aggressive than the wild caught ones. A shame really, considering what a beautiful fish the Arabian dottyback is.

I think that the more aggressive dottybacks are fine nano-dwellers if they are the ONLY fish in the nano tank. I've often thought that a Cypho purpurascens (oblique-lined dottyback) male would make a nice only-resident for a nano tank, but despite its bright colors, I would rather use a dedicated set up for a fish like an angler, that needs to be housed without tankmates for fear of predation rather than aggression.

Finally, in the Reef Fishes volume that includes dottybacks, Scott Michael writes, "One of the best ways to prevent dottybacks from inflicting harm on their tankmates is to house them in a large -the bigger the better- tank loaded with nooks, crannies, and crevices." He also notes that dottybacks are particularly intolerant of wrasses -- most egg-tending fish dislike wrasses, as they are egg-eaters.

I wouldn't keep a dottyback in a small tank with firefish. Firefish are extremely timid fish, and the agile dottyback is likely to have the firefish hiding all the time. I wouldn't purchase a 6 line wrasse for any reason for any tank, especially not if the tank housed peaceful species and/or the tank was small.

Okay, so I guess those are my thoughts on your list (and believe it or not, those are just the first ones that pop into my head!)

Chiefsurfer · 11/29/2009, 07:04 PM

you know I think with the right contrastive background and coral colors, the marine beta would be awesome.

The fish I hope to have:
marine beta,
maroon clown,
spotted(pajama) cardinal,
green clown goby,
exquisite wrasse,
green mandarin,

In no particular order, just real neat lookin fish.

Korrine · 11/29/2009, 07:41 PM

hopefully you're not talking about a nano tank, Chiefsurfer.

The beta, maroon, mandarin (unless supplemented) should be housed in larger tanks

Bmgrocks · 11/30/2009, 01:35 AM

Orchid Dottyback

JJIM · 12/01/2009, 08:04 PM

Here is a pic of that Banded Basslet you asked about....

http://www.vividaquariums.com/10Expa...ode=01-1414-10

4wheelvfr · 12/09/2009, 01:23 AM

How about 4 line/12 line wrasses? Are they as aggressive as the sixlines or not?

Western_reefer · 06/05/2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cherubfish pair

I think there's a dwarf moray that gets 10 inches long. I will check my PMs for a link to something about them.

What about a Dwarf Eel and a Dwarf Puffer in the same tank?

11/20/2009, 08:10 PM	#226
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	garden eel? They can be REALLY hard to care for. Not recommended for that small of a tank since they are carnivorous. Meaty proteins soil the water a lot faster. __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

11/20/2009, 08:11 PM	#227
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	Here's a link to a garden eel thread. Neat looking eels for sure http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1677284 __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

11/20/2009, 08:35 PM	#230
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	ok wasn't referring to you cherub, I was directing that toward the person that asked about an eel in a small tank __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

11/20/2009, 08:57 PM	#232
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	lol sorry. I probably missed. Didn't read to much. But that thread of the Magrove is pretty cool __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

11/20/2009, 08:59 PM	#233
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	I don't think anybody has mentioned a Blackcap Basslet yet. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

11/20/2009, 08:43 PM	#231
powers2001 Moved On Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 224	Yeah, I asked. Korrine I think you missed cherub's link. It's not about garden eels.

11/20/2009, 09:03 PM	#234
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	ok now all 3 kids are in bed. I'll go back and check what I missed ok I see it now. Our postings are only 4 minutes apart. Very possible I was typing as cherub was posting. Sorry for missing it. __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je Last edited by Korrine; 11/20/2009 at 09:05 PM. Reason: I see it now.

11/22/2009, 07:21 PM	#236
Elysia Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,718	I have a black cap. They can get rather large, are pigs, like to "rearrange" the tank, and are not the best tankmates for timid, peaceful fish.

11/24/2009, 06:52 PM	#237
f1shb0y Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 111	1. picasso clowns 2 any other rare clowns 3. black/white percula clown 4. false percula 5. tomato clown 6. just about every goby 7. purple dotty back 8. green chromis thats bout all i got

11/25/2009, 06:18 PM	#239
jrainey Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 56	I like the Rose Antenna Gobies. What do you feed them?

11/28/2009, 10:24 AM	#240
JJIM Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: U.S Posts: 540	No one has mentioned the Fridmani Pseudochromis tank bred or neon Pseudochromis tank bred that I have seen? I am guessing because of their aggressive tendencies at times. I am looking at getting one of these, always liked them and they will add nice color contrast. Has anyone tried one of these sometimes temperamental little guys? I am also looking at adding the 6 line wrasse. The purpose of these two is twofold, one I really like their personality and movement (more so the 6 line for movement), and they control any unnecessary worms. If I do go with these two, which I hope to, they will be the last editions to the tank, letting the other more peaceful members get acclimated. Here is what I plan on putting in my 28 nano when it arrives (being delivered atm). I will narrow down my list by a few when it comes down to it, but these are all possible contenders. I know fewer fish generally is better, but how many could I effectively keep with my corrals? Tail Spot Blenny (if any bad algae they control it ..woot) 6 line Fridmani Pseudochromis or neon (hopefully) Banded Longfin Basslett Greenbanded Goby 1 Purple Fire Goby 1 Orange Fire Goby percula clown tank raised Yellow Watchman Hi Fin Red Banded Goby Blue Flasher Fairy Wrasse *asteric denotes reserved spot in my tank, others are up for grabs...

11/29/2009, 04:06 PM	#241
Elysia Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,718	JJIM -- Do you know the scientific name for your "banded longfin basslet?" I'm not familiar with that one, and so many groups of fish are associated w/ the common name "basslet" -- dwarf seabasses and reef basslets of the family Serranidae, Gramma spp., Pseudochromids, and sometimes even Longfins. Whatever it is, it could cause problems if it is too similar in shape/size/habit as some of your other choices. Anyroad, I think I mentioned the captive bred dottybacks that are native to the Red Sea in my top 10. That would include Pseduochromis flavivertex (sunrise dottyback), P. fridmani (orchid dottyback), P. sankeyi (Sankey's dottyback), and P. springeri (Springer's dottyback), as well as a hybrid between Sankey's and the sunrise (?) Each of these species are reported to be adaptable, reasonably hardy fish that are less aggressive than the typical dottyback. This less aggressive nature apparently comes from the fact that many of these fish live in apparrently dense groups in their native habitat, although I have read that captive breeding has increased the trait of decreased aggression. However, I talked to someone at ORA at MACNA this year, and I asked if they were having any success in breeding some of the "mean" out of P. aldabraensis, the Arabian blueline dottyback (or "neon" dottyback), and he told me that the captive reared fish appear no less aggressive than the wild caught ones. A shame really, considering what a beautiful fish the Arabian dottyback is. I think that the more aggressive dottybacks are fine nano-dwellers if they are the ONLY fish in the nano tank. I've often thought that a Cypho purpurascens (oblique-lined dottyback) male would make a nice only-resident for a nano tank, but despite its bright colors, I would rather use a dedicated set up for a fish like an angler, that needs to be housed without tankmates for fear of predation rather than aggression. Finally, in the Reef Fishes volume that includes dottybacks, Scott Michael writes, "One of the best ways to prevent dottybacks from inflicting harm on their tankmates is to house them in a large -the bigger the better- tank loaded with nooks, crannies, and crevices." He also notes that dottybacks are particularly intolerant of wrasses -- most egg-tending fish dislike wrasses, as they are egg-eaters. I wouldn't keep a dottyback in a small tank with firefish. Firefish are extremely timid fish, and the agile dottyback is likely to have the firefish hiding all the time. I wouldn't purchase a 6 line wrasse for any reason for any tank, especially not if the tank housed peaceful species and/or the tank was small. Okay, so I guess those are my thoughts on your list (and believe it or not, those are just the first ones that pop into my head!)

11/29/2009, 07:04 PM	#242
Chiefsurfer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seaside Park, NJ Posts: 2,138	you know I think with the right contrastive background and coral colors, the marine beta would be awesome. The fish I hope to have: marine beta, maroon clown, spotted(pajama) cardinal, green clown goby, exquisite wrasse, green mandarin, In no particular order, just real neat lookin fish.

11/29/2009, 07:41 PM	#243
Korrine You could get a ticket!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Upper midwest Posts: 4,288 Blog Entries: 1	hopefully you're not talking about a nano tank, Chiefsurfer. The beta, maroon, mandarin (unless supplemented) should be housed in larger tanks __________________ Try to keep in mind that we are all human...mistakes do happen! Be kinder than necessary because every one you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Current Tank Info: 40 breeder - started 9/2011 - platinum perc and sanjay's black photon clownfishes; sps and lps, and soft corals; 250w MH, 20 long sump w Bubble Magus Nac 3.5 skimmer 12g nano cube -serpent star, mini carpet anemones, w 6 sexy shrimp, 150w MH, maxi je

11/30/2009, 01:35 AM	#244
Bmgrocks Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,006	Orchid Dottyback

12/01/2009, 08:04 PM	#245
JJIM Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: U.S Posts: 540	Here is a pic of that Banded Basslet you asked about.... http://www.vividaquariums.com/10Expa...ode=01-1414-10

12/09/2009, 01:23 AM	#246
4wheelvfr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 91	How about 4 line/12 line wrasses? Are they as aggressive as the sixlines or not?