Dead Rock: BRS vs Reef Cleaner Florida Reef Rock

clugo · 06/20/2011, 08:32 PM

Hey, everyone.

I'm debating between BRS and Reef Cleaner dead rock. Any experience with either? Preference?

Here are a little facts about both:

-both are dead rock
-both are cured before being mailed out
-Reef cleaner is priced @ 2.30 per pound
-BRS is priced @ 2.49 per pound

Let me know what you think.

PokerReefer · 06/20/2011, 08:42 PM

I have both Marco rock and Brs Pukani. A little more than $ 2.49 a pound. Pukani is way better than Marco IMO. Pukani is in my display and Marco is now sump rock. Lol!
I have no experience with the Reef cleaner rock
Though.

Gary Majchrzak · 06/20/2011, 08:49 PM

get the best REALLY LIVE live rock that you can afford.
Tampa Bay Saltwater sells some very nice (and affordable) liverock.

homegrownREEFER · 06/20/2011, 10:39 PM

Can't say anything about Reef Cleaner since I never bought from there but i did buy from BRS. Check out my thread I have a few pics in there. I even got a little bit of Coralline on the Fiji rock I ordered. Was a little surprised.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2034520

OregonReefer · 06/21/2011, 12:05 AM

Pukani all the way! If you're looking for really nice looking rock at a great value.

It's super light and porous, In my layout below you're looking at ~70lbs in a 120g tank

Being porous it's a better filter media than a dense rock and has more area to grow bacteria on.

I have yet to put water in this but here's my 9 pieces of Pukani. Every piece except the tall pillar is so light I can pluck them from the tank with one hand.

Edit: forgot to add... the pieces on the far right and far left... bigger than a basketball

snorvich · 06/21/2011, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

get the best REALLY LIVE live rock that you can afford.
Tampa Bay Saltwater sells some very nice (and affordable) liverock.

I agree. the problem is what may leech out of dead rock e.g. phosphate.

Lorenz725 · 06/21/2011, 05:05 AM

I have bought from reef cleaners and they are really good to work with and have good product.

clugo · 06/21/2011, 06:52 AM

Snorvich-according to what is posted on their site, the reefcleaner rock doesn't leach out anything; whereas the pukani will so it needs further curing once it arrives.

Btw: the rocks looks nice.

DFWBill · 06/21/2011, 09:06 AM

I just put the BRS Pukani in my 70T build. it's really nice stuff, I used my 50# of Figi from the old tank as base. It's been running for 3 weeks now and I have a beautiful pink coraline all over the Pukani. Yes I know pics please... my other half is in Europe with the camera. I also did the foam/rock wall with the Pukani, I just chisled out pieces of it to embed in the wall. Looks *****in for sure.

clugo · 06/21/2011, 10:11 AM

The only problem is the two weeks they recommend you let the rock cure once you've received it. The reefcleaner rock is already cured and ready for use upon arrival.

Patience....

SkullV · 06/21/2011, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clugo

The only problem is the two weeks they recommend you let the rock cure once you've received it. The reefcleaner rock is already cured and ready for use upon arrival.

Patience....

No dry rock is cured and ready to go. No amount of cleaning will eliminate all of the organic matter inside the pores of the rock. Also unless live rock ships to you fully submerged you will have some die off as well, even if the vendor claims fully cured.

clugo · 06/21/2011, 10:55 AM

Since I'm starting from scratch, I think I'm safe using the BRS rock for cycling. I'm also introducing Dr. Tim's One & Only Live Nitrifying Bacteria to help the cycling process.

Gary Majchrzak · 06/21/2011, 03:18 PM

skip the live Nitrifying Bacteria to help the cycling process and get some REAL LIVE LIVE ROCK.

Don't follow the masses.

Follow the advice of longtime successful reefkeepers

SkullV · 06/21/2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

skip the live Nitrifying Bacteria to help the cycling process and get some REAL LIVE LIVE ROCK.

Don't follow the masses.

Follow the advice of longtime successful reefkeepers

What is your position on 50/50 live and pukani rock? I have about 50lbs of very aged very premium rock from my current system and I have 50 lbs of brand new pukani. I would like to use both in my new 75g.

Gary Majchrzak · 06/21/2011, 05:23 PM

the glass boxes we use for reef aquariums are small.

Try and bring in as much biodiversity (on/in liverock) as possible.

Biodiversity is a good thing.

The_Codfather · 06/21/2011, 05:51 PM

The_Codfather · 06/21/2011, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkullV

What is your position on 50/50 live and pukani rock? I have about 50lbs of very aged very premium rock from my current system and I have 50 lbs of brand new pukani. I would like to use both in my new 75g.

More live rock the better.. But I think the rule of thumb is 80% dead and 20% live for good seeding but 50/50 is even better

RealReef7 · 06/21/2011, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary majchrzak

the glass boxes we use for reef aquariums are small.

Try and bring in as much biodiversity (on/in liverock) as possible.

Biodiversity is a good thing.

+1

JoshuaG · 06/21/2011, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clugo

Hey, everyone.

I'm debating between BRS and Reef Cleaner dead rock. Any experience with either? Preference?

Here are a little facts about both:

-both are dead rock
-both are cured before being mailed out
-Reef cleaner is priced @ 2.30 per pound
-BRS is priced @ 2.49 per pound

Let me know what you think.

I ordered 50 pounds of both. They are exactly the same rock IMO. If you threw them together you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

JoshuaG · 06/21/2011, 07:08 PM

Oh and reef cleaner rock is only $2 a pound with free shipping.

http://reefcleaners.org/index.php?pa...mart&Itemid=34

PokerReefer · 06/21/2011, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshuaG

Oh and reef cleaner rock is only $2 a pound with free shipping.

http://reefcleaners.org/index.php?pa...mart&Itemid=34

Based upon that link and the close up pics It does not look anything like Pukani. More like the reef saver rocks. Maybe we can compare in person some time Josh. I live in Modesto.

JoshuaG · 06/22/2011, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerReefer

Based upon that link and the close up pics It does not look anything like Pukani. More like the reef saver rocks. Maybe we can compare in person some time Josh. I live in Modesto.

I believe the OP was talking about the Reef Saver rock based on his prices, the Pukani is almost a $1 more a pound

Yossarian88 · 06/22/2011, 04:46 PM

It's too hard to drill, in my experience.

SkullV · 06/22/2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian88

It's too hard to drill, in my experience.

No rock is too hard to drill with the proper bit.

06/20/2011, 08:32 PM	#1
clugo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 537	Dead Rock: BRS vs Reef Cleaner Florida Reef Rock Hey, everyone. I'm debating between BRS and Reef Cleaner dead rock. Any experience with either? Preference? Here are a little facts about both: -both are dead rock -both are cured before being mailed out -Reef cleaner is priced @ 2.30 per pound -BRS is priced @ 2.49 per pound Let me know what you think.

06/20/2011, 08:49 PM	#3
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	tip: get the best REALLY LIVE live rock that you can afford. Tampa Bay Saltwater sells some very nice (and affordable) liverock. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

06/21/2011, 12:05 AM	#5
OregonReefer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 629	Pukani all the way! If you're looking for really nice looking rock at a great value. It's super light and porous, In my layout below you're looking at ~70lbs in a 120g tank Being porous it's a better filter media than a dense rock and has more area to grow bacteria on. I have yet to put water in this but here's my 9 pieces of Pukani. Every piece except the tall pillar is so light I can pluck them from the tank with one hand. Edit: forgot to add... the pieces on the far right and far left... bigger than a basketball __________________ 120g drilled, 30G sump, 20g Fuge, RO NWB200 Skimmer, Glass Holes Overflow, mag 12.0 return, Reeflo Dart closed loop, 6-bulb Sunlight Tek Last edited by OregonReefer; 06/21/2011 at 12:40 AM.

06/21/2011, 09:06 AM	#9
DFWBill Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 60	I just put the BRS Pukani in my 70T build. it's really nice stuff, I used my 50# of Figi from the old tank as base. It's been running for 3 weeks now and I have a beautiful pink coraline all over the Pukani. Yes I know pics please... my other half is in Europe with the camera. I also did the foam/rock wall with the Pukani, I just chisled out pieces of it to embed in the wall. Looks *****in for sure. __________________ Green Chromies, Cardinals, Grammy, Yellow Tang, a pair of Harliquins, Peppermint Shrimp, softies & SPS and the coolest Fighting Conch who's about 3" now. Current Tank Info: 70T RR, Apex will all the bells and whistles, Tunze 6055, 12 gal Fuge, Octo 160, Ehiem 1265 Return, BRS GFO/Carbon, Coralife UV, 2 Drew's Dosers (Ca/Kh), DIY ATO, RapidLED DIY LEDs

06/21/2011, 03:18 PM	#13
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	skip the live Nitrifying Bacteria to help the cycling process and get some REAL LIVE LIVE ROCK. Don't follow the masses. Follow the advice of longtime successful reefkeepers __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

06/20/2011, 08:42 PM	#2
PokerReefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Modesto,CA. Posts: 309	I have both Marco rock and Brs Pukani. A little more than $ 2.49 a pound. Pukani is way better than Marco IMO. Pukani is in my display and Marco is now sump rock. Lol! I have no experience with the Reef cleaner rock Though.

06/20/2011, 10:39 PM	#4
homegrownREEFER Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 171	Can't say anything about Reef Cleaner since I never bought from there but i did buy from BRS. Check out my thread I have a few pics in there. I even got a little bit of Coralline on the Fiji rock I ordered. Was a little surprised. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2034520

06/21/2011, 05:05 AM	#7
Lorenz725 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 942	I have bought from reef cleaners and they are really good to work with and have good product.

06/21/2011, 06:52 AM	#8
clugo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 537	Snorvich-according to what is posted on their site, the reefcleaner rock doesn't leach out anything; whereas the pukani will so it needs further curing once it arrives. Btw: the rocks looks nice.

06/21/2011, 10:11 AM	#10
clugo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 537	The only problem is the two weeks they recommend you let the rock cure once you've received it. The reefcleaner rock is already cured and ready for use upon arrival. Patience....

06/21/2011, 10:55 AM	#12
clugo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 537	Since I'm starting from scratch, I think I'm safe using the BRS rock for cycling. I'm also introducing Dr. Tim's One & Only Live Nitrifying Bacteria to help the cycling process.

06/21/2011, 05:23 PM	#15
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	my position: the glass boxes we use for reef aquariums are small. Try and bring in as much biodiversity (on/in liverock) as possible. Biodiversity is a good thing. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

06/21/2011, 05:51 PM	#16
The_Codfather Have frag will travel Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 541

06/21/2011, 07:08 PM	#20
JoshuaG Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,307	Oh and reef cleaner rock is only $2 a pound with free shipping. http://reefcleaners.org/index.php?pa...mart&Itemid=34 __________________ -Bob LaDouche "Out with the old, in with the new!"

06/22/2011, 04:46 PM	#23
Yossarian88 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7	Very happy with RC rock but one cautionary note: It's too hard to drill, in my experience.

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