Marine Ich

ReeftankNoob19 · 08/01/2011, 10:23 PM

55g reef tank. I got a sweet lips 4 days ago, great healthy fish, good personality. Started to see a couple of small white spots on him, assuming its marine ich. I looked up cures for marine ich, people have recommended Hyposalinty/Osmotic Shock therapy. Do i have to remove my corals, invertebrates and fish before performing the process?

dzfish17 · 08/01/2011, 10:52 PM

This should help. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/blog.php?b=289 You will need to move the fish to a hospital tank and treat them there.

briankmarsh1980 · 08/01/2011, 11:26 PM

You will have to remove the fish into QT and treat them with hypo or copper there.
And your DT will need to stay fishless for 6-8 weeks so the parasite will cycle out and die.

snorvich · 08/02/2011, 04:54 AM

You got a fish that will reach 2.5 feet for a 55 gallon tank?

hddtran · 08/02/2011, 05:01 AM

First,
Mix the food with some garlic liquid for a few days to see it helps.

After a few day if you see no improvement or it get worse.
isolate the fish in a 10g tank with hospitality (or treat the fish with coppery ) for 4-6 weeks

Do not dose any copper or any medication into your main tank, they are killer to your corals.

Chris27 · 08/02/2011, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hddtran

isolate the fish in a 10g tank with hospitality .

Wait a min.....wouldn't hospitality mean a 75Gal tank instead of a 10Gal....I mean we're talking about a Four Seasons vs. a HoJo with dirty sheets here

Chris27 · 08/02/2011, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

You got a fish that will reach 2.5 feet for a 55 gallon tank?

Let's also not forget the fact that it is a carnivore....which most times isn't very conducive to keeping a clean up crew or small fish population one typically maintains in a small reef.

snorvich · 08/02/2011, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris27

Wait a min.....wouldn't hospitality mean a 75Gal tank instead of a 10Gal....I mean we're talking about a Four Seasons vs. a HoJo with dirty sheets here

Exactly. I know what my preference would be.

snorvich · 08/02/2011, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hddtran

First,
Mix the food with some garlic liquid for a few days to see it helps.

After a few day if you see no improvement or it get worse.
isolate the fish in a 10g tank with hospitality (or treat the fish with coppery ) for 4-6 weeks

Do not dose any copper or any medication into your main tank, they are killer to your corals.

I think you AND the OP should read this.

snorvich · 08/02/2011, 06:52 AM

Any LFS that would stock a juvenile sweetlips must be considered irresponsible. I would be very skeptical of any fish from that LFS. Definitely check out any possible fish here first. We are not selling fish.

chezhanks · 08/02/2011, 07:45 PM

If it's ich, it's very likely in your tank already. The garlic helps for sure. But
I had luck using a fine pleated filter, the one I have used was a marineland HOT or the magnum. You need at least two pleated filter inserts. You run the filter for several months, to be safe. Twice per week remove the pleated filter and put in the spare. Clean the filter in bleach and very hot water, let sit several hours, rinse well, and let dry completely in the sun. Make sure the chlorine is completely gone before you reuse the pleated filter. This traps the ich in the free swimming stage and eventually eliminates them.

Chris27 · 08/03/2011, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezhanks

If it's ich, it's very likely in your tank already. The garlic helps for sure. But
I had luck using a fine pleated filter, the one I have used was a marineland HOT or the magnum. You need at least two pleated filter inserts. You run the filter for several months, to be safe. Twice per week remove the pleated filter and put in the spare. Clean the filter in bleach and very hot water, let sit several hours, rinse well, and let dry completely in the sun. Make sure the chlorine is completely gone before you reuse the pleated filter. This traps the ich in the free swimming stage and eventually eliminates them.

I assure you it doesn't "trap" the parasite.....additionally....given the nature of how a filter works, there is no way for the filter to process every bit of water in the short time the parasite is actually "free swimming" this is similar to why UV filters are also ineffective at halting the lifecycle.

MrTuskfish · 08/03/2011, 09:10 AM

+1 on Chris's comments No filter, UV, or garlic magic will cure ich.
+1 on Steve's comments on sweetlips, this fish doesn't belong any any home tank. (very few, maybe). the LFS owner should be told this and avoided.
To the OP: I'd suggest reading a lot before you buy any more fish. learn about fish and diseases. Google your sweetlips and see what he grows into. I sense a disaster coming. ALL your fish need to be treated for ich, the link in post #9 will tell you why. I won't even go into my QT rant yet.

Chris27 · 08/03/2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTuskfish

I won't even go into my QT rant yet.

Perhaps you should take a sabbatical on QT rants...I did, and I was a much happier person

mess7777 · 08/03/2011, 11:10 AM

1st post ever.....troll?

MrTuskfish · 08/03/2011, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris27

Perhaps you should take a sabbatical on QT rants...I did, and I was a much happier person

I'm actually just a happy big fuzzball; just loud sometimes. But, I always seem to need a cause.

snorvich · 08/03/2011, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTuskfish

I'm actually just a happy big fuzzball;

I thought we had options on that description.

08/01/2011, 10:23 PM	#1
ReeftankNoob19 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1	Marine Ich 55g reef tank. I got a sweet lips 4 days ago, great healthy fish, good personality. Started to see a couple of small white spots on him, assuming its marine ich. I looked up cures for marine ich, people have recommended Hyposalinty/Osmotic Shock therapy. Do i have to remove my corals, invertebrates and fish before performing the process?

08/01/2011, 10:52 PM	#2
dzfish17 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fresno,Ca. Posts: 2,545	This should help. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/blog.php?b=289 You will need to move the fish to a hospital tank and treat them there. __________________ 600g (96x36x46) FOWLR

08/01/2011, 11:26 PM	#3
briankmarsh1980 I'm a member of **!!!!!! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maricopa, Arizona Posts: 2,127	You will have to remove the fish into QT and treat them with hypo or copper there. And your DT will need to stay fishless for 6-8 weeks so the parasite will cycle out and die. __________________ My skim don't stink _______________________________________________________________ 210 gallons with stuff!!!!!!!

08/02/2011, 04:54 AM	#4
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	You got a fish that will reach 2.5 feet for a 55 gallon tank? __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

08/02/2011, 06:52 AM	#10
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Any LFS that would stock a juvenile sweetlips must be considered irresponsible. I would be very skeptical of any fish from that LFS. Definitely check out any possible fish here first. We are not selling fish. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

08/02/2011, 05:01 AM	#5
hddtran Moved On Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 99	First, Mix the food with some garlic liquid for a few days to see it helps. After a few day if you see no improvement or it get worse. isolate the fish in a 10g tank with hospitality (or treat the fish with coppery ) for 4-6 weeks Do not dose any copper or any medication into your main tank, they are killer to your corals.

08/02/2011, 07:45 PM	#11
chezhanks Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 18	If it's ich, it's very likely in your tank already. The garlic helps for sure. But I had luck using a fine pleated filter, the one I have used was a marineland HOT or the magnum. You need at least two pleated filter inserts. You run the filter for several months, to be safe. Twice per week remove the pleated filter and put in the spare. Clean the filter in bleach and very hot water, let sit several hours, rinse well, and let dry completely in the sun. Make sure the chlorine is completely gone before you reuse the pleated filter. This traps the ich in the free swimming stage and eventually eliminates them.

08/03/2011, 09:10 AM	#13
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	+1 on Chris's comments No filter, UV, or garlic magic will cure ich. +1 on Steve's comments on sweetlips, this fish doesn't belong any any home tank. (very few, maybe). the LFS owner should be told this and avoided. To the OP: I'd suggest reading a lot before you buy any more fish. learn about fish and diseases. Google your sweetlips and see what he grows into. I sense a disaster coming. ALL your fish need to be treated for ich, the link in post #9 will tell you why. I won't even go into my QT rant yet. __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef

08/03/2011, 11:10 AM	#15
mess7777 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: QC,QC Posts: 987	1st post ever.....troll?

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