question:fish selection for a 75 gallon saltwater

jack34 · 08/18/2011, 11:11 AM

hi i am starting up a new 75 gallon tank, and have been looking at alot of fish and just dont quite know 100% about compatability charts, i was wondering in this order of fish if they will do well together and how many can be in the tank without having to upgrade for a while.

1. lion fish
2. snowflake eel
3. blue spotted puffer
4. clown tang
5. yellow tang
6. niger trigger
7. powder blue tang
(8) anemonees???

any help on this would be muchly apreciated. or any recomendations on something that would make the aquarium better.

thanks alot Jack

anaya · 08/18/2011, 12:20 PM

Hello jack34. I am in no means an expert but from everything I have read the tangs you listed require very large tanks. You should research them before making any decisions. The eel and puffer may have issues with aggression and should be looked into as well. The comments I'm posting are not due to personal experience but things I believe that I have read on other compatibility threads. Best of luck to you and someone with more knowledge of the species at hand will surely comment soon.

Welcome to reefcentral!

Antonio

jack34 · 08/18/2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anaya

Hello jack34. I am in no means an expert but from everything I have read the tangs you listed require very large tanks. You should research them before making any decisions. The eel and puffer may have issues with aggression and should be looked into as well. The comments I'm posting are not due to personal experience but things I believe that I have read on other compatibility threads. Best of luck to you and someone with more knowledge of the species at hand will surely comment soon.

Welcome to reefcentral!

Antonio

thanks

clowntriggerfis · 08/18/2011, 01:23 PM

if the yellow one is a sailfin tang it might be a big enough tank but the rest of the tangs are way to big for a 75 niger trigger with a lion and a snow flake eel should be fine

jack34 · 08/18/2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntriggerfis

if the yellow one is a sailfin tang it might be a big enough tank but the rest of the tangs are way to big for a 75 niger trigger with a lion and a snow flake eel should be fine

sweet! thanks a lot!

namxas · 08/18/2011, 01:50 PM

The yellow tang and SFE are really about all you could put into the tank long-term, assuming that when you say "lionfish", you're referring to P. volitans, which will definitely outgrow a 75 gal (think of a 12"+ cube of fish, counting fins).

You could, however, keep one of the medium-bodied lionfish (P. mombassae, P. radiata, P. antennata) or a few dwarf species (a M-F-F trio of fuzzies would be nice).

MrTuskfish · 08/18/2011, 02:46 PM

Another opinion you won't like; lions and most triggers don't do well together. I once came home to a Volitans that had been shredded by a Niger Trigger.

MrTuskfish · 08/18/2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntriggerfis

if the yellow one is a sailfin tang it might be a big enough tank but the rest of the tangs are way to big for a 75 niger trigger with a lion and a snow flake eel should be fine

Yellows and sailfins are two different species in the same genus and seldom get along. Sailfins get huge (15"), way too big for a 75. A lot of people think a 75 is too small for a yellow tang; but if you have to break a tang rule....a yellow in a 75 is OK; just my opinion. they are very hardy and adaptable fish. But, I sure have no problem agreeing with all the hobbyists who will say the opposite, either. (Just re-read my post, I should do that more often. This one sounds like a rookie politician, but I'm sure you get the point.)

clowntriggerfis · 08/18/2011, 02:54 PM

realy I have heard niger triggers get along with lions and scorpions

BigFeesh · 08/18/2011, 02:55 PM

Clown tangs need huge tanks !!! They are soooo agressive especially if you have a small tank. All fish are pretty much to big besides the snowflake eel

Master Kyle 297 · 08/18/2011, 03:04 PM

Don't get a niger trigger, I had one in a reef tank (he didn't touch corals or inverts) but he bullied the other fish that weree even bigger than him. clown tang will get too big for a 75g same with the powder tang. As far as anemones, I find bulb anemones the hardiest and readily host clownfish. The puffer, snowflake, and a DWARF lionfish are all fine. It's kinda iffy on the yellow tang but one should be fine but buy a smaller sized one. If you got some cash, a marine betta would be a colorful addition but they don't like overly aggressive/active fish so one would do great with a snowflake and lion. They usually cost around $75 but I got mine for $40 from a fish farm (breeder). A hawkfish might be good, dwarf angels (but only one), a fairy wrasse, there are other fish too but I'm not sure what your interested in.

Example:

Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish (make sure its eating frozen)
Snowflake Moray Eel (get a small one, have a tight fitting cover, no small fish or inverts)
Blue Spotted Puffer (monitor with inverts)
Yellow Tang (have some seaweed or algae on LR to graze on)

Bulb Anemone with (one or a pair of maroon clownfish)

That's a good start but read up on things before you consider buying. I had the problem of buying a fish I liked but then removing it because I didn't do good research. And add things slowly or only a couple at a time. Happy fish keeping!

BigFeesh · 08/18/2011, 04:07 PM

Yellow tangs are iffy and powder blue is a no? Yellows get bigger than powder blues.
So neither of them.

Marine bettas are small fish eaters. Blie spot piffers are fin Biters .Anemones need high lighting so only if you have t5,mh, or led you should be fine. They also need good stability so if you're going to overstock this thing (looks like you are) it will probably bleach out.

I would put in the eel, dwarf lionfish, maybe be a bigger dwarf angel , a hawk fish. I just dont know because the eel and lionfish are fish eaters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Kyle 297

Don't get a niger trigger, I had one in a reef tank (he didn't touch corals or inverts) but he bullied the other fish that weree even bigger than him. clown tang will get too big for a 75g same with the powder tang. As far as anemones, I find bulb anemones the hardiest and readily host clownfish. The puffer, snowflake, and a DWARF lionfish are all fine. It's kinda iffy on the yellow tang but one should be fine but buy a smaller sized one. If you got some cash, a marine betta would be a colorful addition but they don't like overly aggressive/active fish so one would do great with a snowflake and lion. They usually cost around $75 but I got mine for $40 from a fish farm (breeder). A hawkfish might be good, dwarf angels (but only one), a fairy wrasse, there are other fish too but I'm not sure what your interested in.

Example:

Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish (make sure its eating frozen)
Snowflake Moray Eel (get a small one, have a tight fitting cover, no small fish or inverts)
Blue Spotted Puffer (monitor with inverts)
Yellow Tang (have some seaweed or algae on LR to graze on)

Bulb Anemone with (one or a pair of maroon clownfish)

That's a good start but read up on things before you consider buying. I had the problem of buying a fish I liked but then removing it because I didn't do good research. And add things slowly or only a couple at a time. Happy fish keeping!

08/18/2011, 11:11 AM	#1
jack34 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 14	question:fish selection for a 75 gallon saltwater hi i am starting up a new 75 gallon tank, and have been looking at alot of fish and just dont quite know 100% about compatability charts, i was wondering in this order of fish if they will do well together and how many can be in the tank without having to upgrade for a while. 1. lion fish 2. snowflake eel 3. blue spotted puffer 4. clown tang 5. yellow tang 6. niger trigger 7. powder blue tang (8) anemonees??? any help on this would be muchly apreciated. or any recomendations on something that would make the aquarium better. thanks alot Jack

08/18/2011, 01:50 PM	#6
namxas Things With Stings R Us! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 5,087	The yellow tang and SFE are really about all you could put into the tank long-term, assuming that when you say "lionfish", you're referring to P. volitans, which will definitely outgrow a 75 gal (think of a 12"+ cube of fish, counting fins). You could, however, keep one of the medium-bodied lionfish (P. mombassae, P. radiata, P. antennata) or a few dwarf species (a M-F-F trio of fuzzies would be nice). __________________ Greg Current Tank Info: too many to describe, but i think the count is up to "lucky 13"!

08/18/2011, 02:46 PM	#7
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	Another opinion you won't like; lions and most triggers don't do well together. I once came home to a Volitans that had been shredded by a Niger Trigger. __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef

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08/18/2011, 12:20 PM	#2
anaya Shh Lets Not talk Cost! Join Date: May 2010 Location: North East Tennessee Posts: 315	Hello jack34. I am in no means an expert but from everything I have read the tangs you listed require very large tanks. You should research them before making any decisions. The eel and puffer may have issues with aggression and should be looked into as well. The comments I'm posting are not due to personal experience but things I believe that I have read on other compatibility threads. Best of luck to you and someone with more knowledge of the species at hand will surely comment soon. Welcome to reefcentral! Antonio

08/18/2011, 01:23 PM	#4
clowntriggerfis Moved On Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 773	if the yellow one is a sailfin tang it might be a big enough tank but the rest of the tangs are way to big for a 75 niger trigger with a lion and a snow flake eel should be fine

08/18/2011, 02:54 PM	#9
clowntriggerfis Moved On Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 773	realy I have heard niger triggers get along with lions and scorpions

08/18/2011, 02:55 PM	#10
BigFeesh Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: chicago area Posts: 119	Clown tangs need huge tanks !!! They are soooo agressive especially if you have a small tank. All fish are pretty much to big besides the snowflake eel

08/18/2011, 03:04 PM	#11
Master Kyle 297 Reef Freak Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 204	Don't get a niger trigger, I had one in a reef tank (he didn't touch corals or inverts) but he bullied the other fish that weree even bigger than him. clown tang will get too big for a 75g same with the powder tang. As far as anemones, I find bulb anemones the hardiest and readily host clownfish. The puffer, snowflake, and a DWARF lionfish are all fine. It's kinda iffy on the yellow tang but one should be fine but buy a smaller sized one. If you got some cash, a marine betta would be a colorful addition but they don't like overly aggressive/active fish so one would do great with a snowflake and lion. They usually cost around $75 but I got mine for $40 from a fish farm (breeder). A hawkfish might be good, dwarf angels (but only one), a fairy wrasse, there are other fish too but I'm not sure what your interested in. Example: Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish (make sure its eating frozen) Snowflake Moray Eel (get a small one, have a tight fitting cover, no small fish or inverts) Blue Spotted Puffer (monitor with inverts) Yellow Tang (have some seaweed or algae on LR to graze on) Bulb Anemone with (one or a pair of maroon clownfish) That's a good start but read up on things before you consider buying. I had the problem of buying a fish I liked but then removing it because I didn't do good research. And add things slowly or only a couple at a time. Happy fish keeping!