Sebae anemone help

Kasasah7 · 10/24/2011, 01:35 AM

So... I bought a sebae anemone from my LFS and it looked pretty good. I shouldn't have got it. I later found out they are one of the hardest. Mine absolutely will not attach to anything.. I finally got it to barely grab the glass in the corner so it won't flip upside down or float away. Then 30 seconds later i come to look at it and it floated up to my 1 powerhead and got sucked into it......... I have 1 maxijet 1200 for my 50 gallon tank, and i have been told i need more. So what am i supposed to do with more flow when this thing can't even attach itself to a damn thing. I tryd to let it do it's own thing and move around but it just flips upside down. Water parameters are exactly where they need to be i have been checking them twice a day... Should i just take the damn thing back while it's still alive?

bundybear1981 · 10/24/2011, 04:59 AM

When I introduced my M. Quadricolor I turnt off the powerhead for 4 hrs (left the sump pump circulating the water) as well as turning off my lights when I introduced it. Its got a good grip now

billdogg · 10/24/2011, 06:36 AM

Some details about your tank would be helpful. Lights? Size? How long has it been set up? Also - what does the anemone actually look like? Is it bleached? (white) or dyed? (usually yellow?) How about actual water parameters?

kduen · 10/24/2011, 10:01 AM

H. Crispas also like to be in the sand so that could be part of the problem. Usually people turn off all powerheads and dig out a hole down to the glass at the rock sand interface and place the nem. After a the nem has started to attach place the sand gently back around the nem and turn on the powerhead.

Kasasah7 · 10/24/2011, 12:09 PM

The problem is i have a 4 inch sand bed. I've had the tank for a month but it's an established tank that was running for 3 years and i kept all the live rock and sand and water during the move. It's a 50 gallon. I have 4 T5s on it which is way more then the fish store had on it and it was healthy. I think it's just not used to the sand cause the tank it was in is completely bare. It sitting in one spot now. Hopefully it will burrow itself into the sand where it is. And it's right side up this time not upside down. It's a all white sebae

kduen · 10/25/2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasasah7

I have 4 T5s on it which is way more then the fish store had on it and it was healthy. It's a all white sebae

Theese two sentences contradict each other. There is no all white hosting anemone that is healthy. White=bleached, your "sebae" anemone is most likely a H. Crispa and should be a brownish color. If the nem was brownish at the store then I would agree that it was healthy when you purchased it. Also theese are sand dwelling anemones I doubt that the sand is what caused it to move. If I had to venture a guess it most likely was in a spot that had too much flow and decided to find a calmer spot.

Santoki · 10/25/2011, 11:48 AM

Assuming it is a Crispa, I've seen too many variations in Crispa preferences to say they are sand dwelling. Some actually seem to dislike sand. Mine is an example.

To the OP's original question, turn the flow down a bit and try feeding it a very small piece (1/8"- 1/4' diameter) of dried krill after it attaches. In most cases, that will increase their chances of staying put. Then go from there. If you don't feel that you have enough experience, you should probably take it back if the LFS will take it back.

You could also try posting in the Anemone section, but you may get flamed, as they don't seem to be a very tolerant bunch in there...
Good luck.
-Robert

Toddrtrex · 10/25/2011, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santoki

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You could also try posting in the Anemone section, but you may get flamed, as they don't seem to be a very tolerant bunch in there...
Good luck.
-Robert

Care to back up your comments?

jamesdean3 · 10/25/2011, 02:04 PM

he is right, it would most likely be non-stop " you shoudn't have added the nem to your tank for at least 8 months". " why didn't you do more research". which are all valid and mostly true statements but the nem is in the tank now and our friend needs assistance and advice.

I would just say do your best to keep water parameters up the best you can and do everything you can to leave the nem alone unless it needs real assistance , i.e. try not to move it to where you feel is the best spot, it will find it on its own.

xCry0x · 10/25/2011, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santoki

You could also try posting in the Anemone section, but you may get flamed, as they don't seem to be a very tolerant bunch in there...
Good luck.
-Robert

Lol, when you see day after day of, "Hey i just started a new tank today, i got some sand, some rocks and 2 carpet anemones. My tank is a 10g bio cube. What nemo fish should I get?" .. you probably develop a low level of tolerance.

Back on topic, Sorry to say OP but the fact that you did not even know what color the anemone should be shows the amount of research you did prior to the purchase. It might work out in the long run, it might not. But having the thing get sucked into a powerhead on day 1 is already a bad start.

Good luck.

Toddrtrex · 10/25/2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdean3

he is right, it would most likely be non-stop " you shoudn't have added the nem to your tank for at least 8 months". " why didn't you do more research". which are all valid and mostly true statements but the nem is in the tank now and our friend needs assistance and advice.

I would just say do your best to keep water parameters up the best you can and do everything you can to leave the nem alone unless it needs real assistance , i.e. try not to move it to where you feel is the best spot, it will find it on its own.

Funny, just looked at all the threads on the first page -- nothing like you claim are present on those threads.

Other people read threads, and hopefully they will learn from other people's mistakes, so I see nothing wrong with mentioning that one should research, have the proper tank, etc before putting in an anemone.

jamesdean3 · 10/25/2011, 02:25 PM

^^^^ see

don't even have to go the anemone forum to hear it!! proved my point for me with your comments.
and i don't think the OP came across that way at all, kind of insulting really.
how about some help and advice? i'm sure he appreciated those words from a fellow reefer, everyone likes a good bashing when they are new to something, really makes some love the hobby with people like that

Toddrtrex · 10/25/2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesdean3

^^^^ see

Your point?

See that you edited your post.

"kduen" made a good post, and the OP hasn't made a comment on it.

Where did I bash the OP??

Advice from me.. research before buying -- white H. crispas are bleached, and in poor health, their track record is poor, at best.

FYI -- Your sarcasm isn't helping things at all.

brian762 · 10/25/2011, 02:47 PM

We need a smiley eating popcorn!

They are not flaming in the Anemone forum, they are just trying to help and get the point across to research every animal you plan on adding to your tank.

xCry0x · 10/25/2011, 02:49 PM

Well what kind of responses to you expect when you ask a question that has been asked 1000 times. Use google,yahoo, bing.. forum search button..

Santoki · 10/25/2011, 05:50 PM

Last time I checked, this is the "New to the Hobby" section of RC. I don't really have time to get into an ego battle, since I will definitely lose when getting into a match with an admin member, but the "higher than thou" posts here prove my point, and you're right jamesdean3, the OP didn't have to go far to encounter this.
Even though this is something that has been asked 1000 times, you fail to see that this may very well be the first time the OP is asking. He/she may not have done the research, but not everyone spends as much time as you may on the internet, let alone feel comfortable using a computer. I'm sure all of you at some point have been guilty of impulse buys before having all the necessary information. At least he/she is coming here to do research. You can be sure this OP probably will think twice next time they have a question.
IMO, it's pointless to have a "New to the Hobby" section if this is the type of attitude newbies get when they have questions.
OP, good luck with your anemone.

Santoki · 10/25/2011, 05:50 PM

double post.

kduen · 10/25/2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santoki

Last time I checked, this is the "New to the Hobby" section of RC. I don't really have time to get into an ego battle, since I will definitely lose when getting into a match with an admin member, but the "higher than thou" posts here prove my point, and you're right jamesdean3, the OP didn't have to go far to encounter this.
Even though this is something that has been asked 1000 times, you fail to see that this may very well be the first time the OP is asking. He/she may not have done the research, but not everyone spends as much time as you may on the internet, let alone feel comfortable using a computer. I'm sure all of you at some point have been guilty of impulse buys before having all the necessary information. At least he/she is coming here to do research. You can be sure this OP probably will think twice next time they have a question.
IMO, it's pointless to have a "New to the Hobby" section if this is the type of attitude newbies get when they have questions.
OP, good luck with your anemone.

If all of this is referring to my post I do not see where I was "Flaming" or putting the OP down. I am very well aware that not ALL Crispa's are sand dwelling but if it is placed at the sand rock interface it will either a) attach to the bottom of the tank or b) climb up the rock to a suitable place. No where did I say that he/she should have done more research before purchasing the nem. Being that the OP said it let go and floated away is telling me that either the water isn't as perferct as he/she thinks it is or there was too much flow or it could even be a lighting issue. There are way too many variables to come to a conclusive decision when it is not your tank.

10/24/2011, 01:35 AM	#1
Kasasah7 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 23	Sebae anemone help So... I bought a sebae anemone from my LFS and it looked pretty good. I shouldn't have got it. I later found out they are one of the hardest. Mine absolutely will not attach to anything.. I finally got it to barely grab the glass in the corner so it won't flip upside down or float away. Then 30 seconds later i come to look at it and it floated up to my 1 powerhead and got sucked into it......... I have 1 maxijet 1200 for my 50 gallon tank, and i have been told i need more. So what am i supposed to do with more flow when this thing can't even attach itself to a damn thing. I tryd to let it do it's own thing and move around but it just flips upside down. Water parameters are exactly where they need to be i have been checking them twice a day... Should i just take the damn thing back while it's still alive?

10/24/2011, 04:59 AM	#2
bundybear1981 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bundaberg, Queensland, Australia Posts: 685 Blog Entries: 1	When I introduced my M. Quadricolor I turnt off the powerhead for 4 hrs (left the sump pump circulating the water) as well as turning off my lights when I introduced it. Its got a good grip now __________________ Tank inhabitants : 2x Clownfish, 1x Blue Koran, 1x Foxface Lo, 1xCoral Beauty, 1x Blue Tang, 1x Sailfin Tang Current Tank Info: New Build : 250g (6x3x2) with 2x RW15 pumps, 2x 2200lph return pumps, Tunze ATO, Jebao Dosing Pump, AquaOne G220 Skimmer

10/24/2011, 06:36 AM	#3
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Some details about your tank would be helpful. Lights? Size? How long has it been set up? Also - what does the anemone actually look like? Is it bleached? (white) or dyed? (usually yellow?) How about actual water parameters? __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

10/25/2011, 02:25 PM	#12
jamesdean3 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 128	^^^^ see don't even have to go the anemone forum to hear it!! proved my point for me with your comments. and i don't think the OP came across that way at all, kind of insulting really. how about some help and advice? i'm sure he appreciated those words from a fellow reefer, everyone likes a good bashing when they are new to something, really makes some love the hobby with people like that Last edited by jamesdean3; 10/25/2011 at 03:07 PM.

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10/24/2011, 10:01 AM	#4
kduen Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 684	H. Crispas also like to be in the sand so that could be part of the problem. Usually people turn off all powerheads and dig out a hole down to the glass at the rock sand interface and place the nem. After a the nem has started to attach place the sand gently back around the nem and turn on the powerhead.

10/24/2011, 12:09 PM	#5
Kasasah7 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 23	The problem is i have a 4 inch sand bed. I've had the tank for a month but it's an established tank that was running for 3 years and i kept all the live rock and sand and water during the move. It's a 50 gallon. I have 4 T5s on it which is way more then the fish store had on it and it was healthy. I think it's just not used to the sand cause the tank it was in is completely bare. It sitting in one spot now. Hopefully it will burrow itself into the sand where it is. And it's right side up this time not upside down. It's a all white sebae

10/25/2011, 11:48 AM	#7
Santoki Shimmer Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 619	Assuming it is a Crispa, I've seen too many variations in Crispa preferences to say they are sand dwelling. Some actually seem to dislike sand. Mine is an example. To the OP's original question, turn the flow down a bit and try feeding it a very small piece (1/8"- 1/4' diameter) of dried krill after it attaches. In most cases, that will increase their chances of staying put. Then go from there. If you don't feel that you have enough experience, you should probably take it back if the LFS will take it back. You could also try posting in the Anemone section, but you may get flamed, as they don't seem to be a very tolerant bunch in there... Good luck. -Robert

10/25/2011, 02:04 PM	#9
jamesdean3 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 128	he is right, it would most likely be non-stop " you shoudn't have added the nem to your tank for at least 8 months". " why didn't you do more research". which are all valid and mostly true statements but the nem is in the tank now and our friend needs assistance and advice. I would just say do your best to keep water parameters up the best you can and do everything you can to leave the nem alone unless it needs real assistance , i.e. try not to move it to where you feel is the best spot, it will find it on its own.

10/25/2011, 02:47 PM	#14
brian762 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 654	We need a smiley eating popcorn! They are not flaming in the Anemone forum, they are just trying to help and get the point across to research every animal you plan on adding to your tank.

10/25/2011, 02:49 PM	#15
xCry0x Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Martinez, CA Posts: 1,116	Well what kind of responses to you expect when you ask a question that has been asked 1000 times. Use google,yahoo, bing.. forum search button..

10/25/2011, 05:50 PM	#16
Santoki Shimmer Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 619	Last time I checked, this is the "New to the Hobby" section of RC. I don't really have time to get into an ego battle, since I will definitely lose when getting into a match with an admin member, but the "higher than thou" posts here prove my point, and you're right jamesdean3, the OP didn't have to go far to encounter this. Even though this is something that has been asked 1000 times, you fail to see that this may very well be the first time the OP is asking. He/she may not have done the research, but not everyone spends as much time as you may on the internet, let alone feel comfortable using a computer. I'm sure all of you at some point have been guilty of impulse buys before having all the necessary information. At least he/she is coming here to do research. You can be sure this OP probably will think twice next time they have a question. IMO, it's pointless to have a "New to the Hobby" section if this is the type of attitude newbies get when they have questions. OP, good luck with your anemone.