PVC bottom tank

bruce 1 · 11/02/2011, 04:47 PM

Does any one here have a PVC bottom tank? If so... Do you like it? Pros/Cons?

Thank you Bruce

florida reef1 · 11/02/2011, 05:41 PM

Just did a search and read up on these pvc bottom tanks. Seems like a cool concept. Probably saves on material cost and definitely weight.

lordjnx · 11/02/2011, 07:32 PM

a local store here sells alot of these.... after hauling alot of tanks i can say without a doubt that pvc bottom tanks weight ALOT less.

also something i found that if you order the pvc bottom tanks the cost of changing drain and return sizes is easy and not as exspensive as changing the sizes in a traditional glass bottom tank...

bruce 1 · 11/04/2011, 06:45 AM

Who made the ones you looked at?

Amoore311 · 11/04/2011, 07:27 AM

I thought AGE was the only company that offered tanks with a PVC bottom.

moondoggy4 · 11/04/2011, 11:23 AM

I believe that LeeMar makes them also.

mc-cro · 11/04/2011, 04:42 PM

I have an AGE tank. I love the tank. I cant really say there are any cons the pvc bottom. they are lighter, and the pvc allows for easy drilling if you wanted to do a closed loop or something else. You also do not need to put a sheet of styrofoam under them like you do flat bottom glass tanks.

jucario · 11/05/2011, 11:12 AM

In terms of sturdiness do you think they are better? I live in an area where earthquakes are relatively common so if the pvc bottom tank is less fragile, it's something for me to consider.

moondoggy4 · 11/05/2011, 12:06 PM

jucario are you also going to use a Euro Brace tank I also live in a earthquake zone and watching the water sloshing over the sides is not fun.

jucario · 11/05/2011, 02:50 PM

moondoggy now that you mention it you made me think about it; I like how the rimless tanks posted here look and I was considering going that way, but I guess you are totally right.

GvineReefer · 11/16/2011, 01:22 PM

I just ordered a new 120-gal from Planet Aquariums here in Dallas and pretty much all of their tanks come with PVC bottoms now. I just toured their facility today and I didn't see any tanks with glass bottoms. They will be making me a glass sump with PVC bottom as well, so it seems that this is a new trend. I haven't read about any negatives and I see these more and more on custom tanks nowadays.

biecacka · 11/16/2011, 04:35 PM

whats there website?
corey

GvineReefer · 11/16/2011, 10:34 PM

Not sure that they have a website. The builders are formerly Oceanic builders and one was with Deep Sea Aquatics for a bit. If you are interested in obtaining a quote for a tank or sump, PM me and I will put you in contact with a guy that can order you a tank. Great pricing that is guaranteed to be lower than any other custom builder out there.

I'll post up pic's once I get my tank and sump. Should be around 2 weeks or so.

GvineReefer · 12/13/2011, 11:11 PM

New PVC bottom tank and sump from Planet Aquarium.

Danzig · 12/13/2011, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc-cro

I have an AGE tank. I love the tank. I cant really say there are any cons the pvc bottom. they are lighter, and the pvc allows for easy drilling if you wanted to do a closed loop or something else. You also do not need to put a sheet of styrofoam under them like you do flat bottom glass tanks.

"You also do not need to put a sheet of styrofoam under them like you do flat bottom glass tanks." Why do people need to do this? Do alot of people do this? Please explain!

Amoore311 · 12/14/2011, 08:01 AM

I think it has to do with making sure the surface the tank sits on is completely level. The foam will allow the tank to sink a little bit, and self level.... negating any slight inconsistencies in the material the tank is sitting in.

I have a rimless 100 Gallon cube myself (standard glass bottom). I was told by the tank manufacturer to absolutely put 1/4"-1/2" Foam under the tank.

power boat jim · 12/14/2011, 08:10 AM

There is no need to put styrofoam under a glass tank if things are done properly.

JCareyETexas · 12/14/2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GvineReefer

Not sure that they have a website. The builders are formerly Oceanic builders and one was with Deep Sea Aquatics for a bit. If you are interested in obtaining a quote for a tank or sump, PM me and I will put you in contact with a guy that can order you a tank. Great pricing that is guaranteed to be lower than any other custom builder out there.

I'll post up pic's once I get my tank and sump. Should be around 2 weeks or so.

Same company that did my tank (ordered from different store) and I am extremely satisfied. This is the company that I believe GvineReefer is referencing and who my tank came from. I believe the owner's name is Dan and was reachable by phone to answer any questions I had. I'd definitely recommend them.

GvineReefer · 12/14/2011, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCareyETexas

Same company that did my tank (ordered from different store) and I am extremely satisfied. This is the company that I believe GvineReefer is referencing and who my tank came from. I believe the owner's name is Dan and was reachable by phone to answer any questions I had. I'd definitely recommend them.

No, that is not the same company that built my tank. Planet Aquariums is a different company than Oceanview Aquariums. Yes, one of the Planet Aquariums guys used to build for Oceanic, but has now branched off on his own and is running Planet Aquariums. If anyone wants a quote on a new tank, please PM and I'll give you contact info on the dealer that will give you the best price, guaranteed. I am very satisfied with my tank and the price I paid, which was well below any quotes I received from other builders.

mc-cro · 12/14/2011, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig

"You also do not need to put a sheet of styrofoam under them like you do flat bottom glass tanks." Why do people need to do this? Do alot of people do this? Please explain!

the purpose of foam under a glass tank without trim is to alleviate any pressure points. Foam board will not magically level a tank if the stand is not level.

think of it like this, say you have a perfectly flat piece of glass on a flat surface. If it is perfectly plane, then there are no pressure points. suppose you then put a pebble, screw head, or seam of some sort under that glass, you create a very high pressure point in that exact spot that will crack the glass.

Foam simply soaks up imperfections in the wooded stand. glass is usually perfectly flat, wood is not.

Danzig · 12/14/2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc-cro

the purpose of foam under a glass tank without trim is to alleviate any pressure points. Foam board will not magically level a tank if the stand is not level.

think of it like this, say you have a perfectly flat piece of glass on a flat surface. If it is perfectly plane, then there are no pressure points. suppose you then put a pebble, screw head, or seam of some sort under that glass, you create a very high pressure point in that exact spot that will crack the glass.

Foam simply soaks up imperfections in the wooded stand. glass is usually perfectly flat, wood is not.

ahh i see thanks, time to break out the level then.

11/02/2011, 04:47 PM	#1
bruce 1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 207	PVC bottom tank Does any one here have a PVC bottom tank? If so... Do you like it? Pros/Cons? Thank you Bruce

11/02/2011, 05:41 PM	#2
florida reef1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 29	Just did a search and read up on these pvc bottom tanks. Seems like a cool concept. Probably saves on material cost and definitely weight. __________________ 90 gallon reef with sps, lps and softies. 6x54w t5, euroreef vs135, 2x mp40w es, fuge and running ecoback and GFO.

11/04/2011, 07:27 AM	#5
Amoore311 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ulster County, NY Posts: 2,521	I thought AGE was the only company that offered tanks with a PVC bottom. __________________ 30 Gallon FOWLR 2004-2006 90 Gallon LPS Reef 2006-2008 180 Gallon SPS Reef 2008-20012 100 Gallon Custom Rimless Mixed Reef 2012-2014 29 Gallon Biocube Reef! Current Current Tank Info: 29 Gallon Biocube, StevesLED Upgrade, Neptune Apex

11/04/2011, 04:42 PM	#7
mc-cro (macro) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,238	I have an AGE tank. I love the tank. I cant really say there are any cons the pvc bottom. they are lighter, and the pvc allows for easy drilling if you wanted to do a closed loop or something else. You also do not need to put a sheet of styrofoam under them like you do flat bottom glass tanks. __________________ Time is the most valuable thing you have... spend it wisely Current Tank Info: 60x26x24 AGE 3 sided starphire

11/16/2011, 01:22 PM	#11
GvineReefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 175	I just ordered a new 120-gal from Planet Aquariums here in Dallas and pretty much all of their tanks come with PVC bottoms now. I just toured their facility today and I didn't see any tanks with glass bottoms. They will be making me a glass sump with PVC bottom as well, so it seems that this is a new trend. I haven't read about any negatives and I see these more and more on custom tanks nowadays. __________________ GvineReefer Current Tank Info: 120-gal tank/sump from Planet Aquarium, 2xMP40W ES, Apex Lite, Reef Octopus XP2000SSS, NextReef SMR1 bio-pellet reactor, BRS carbon reactor, Mag7 for manifold, QuietOne 5000 return, Bubble Magus doser, 48" TEK 8-bulb T5's, DJ Power Switch

11/02/2011, 07:32 PM	#3
lordjnx Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 46	a local store here sells alot of these.... after hauling alot of tanks i can say without a doubt that pvc bottom tanks weight ALOT less. also something i found that if you order the pvc bottom tanks the cost of changing drain and return sizes is easy and not as exspensive as changing the sizes in a traditional glass bottom tank...

11/04/2011, 06:45 AM	#4
bruce 1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 207	Who made the ones you looked at?

11/04/2011, 11:23 AM	#6
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	I believe that LeeMar makes them also.

11/05/2011, 11:12 AM	#8
jucario Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 88	In terms of sturdiness do you think they are better? I live in an area where earthquakes are relatively common so if the pvc bottom tank is less fragile, it's something for me to consider.

11/05/2011, 12:06 PM	#9
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	jucario are you also going to use a Euro Brace tank I also live in a earthquake zone and watching the water sloshing over the sides is not fun.

11/05/2011, 02:50 PM	#10
jucario Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 88	moondoggy now that you mention it you made me think about it; I like how the rimless tanks posted here look and I was considering going that way, but I guess you are totally right.

11/16/2011, 04:35 PM	#12
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	whats there website? corey

11/16/2011, 10:34 PM	#13
GvineReefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 175	Not sure that they have a website. The builders are formerly Oceanic builders and one was with Deep Sea Aquatics for a bit. If you are interested in obtaining a quote for a tank or sump, PM me and I will put you in contact with a guy that can order you a tank. Great pricing that is guaranteed to be lower than any other custom builder out there. I'll post up pic's once I get my tank and sump. Should be around 2 weeks or so. __________________ GvineReefer Current Tank Info: 120-gal tank/sump from Planet Aquarium, 2xMP40W ES, Apex Lite, Reef Octopus XP2000SSS, NextReef SMR1 bio-pellet reactor, BRS carbon reactor, Mag7 for manifold, QuietOne 5000 return, Bubble Magus doser, 48" TEK 8-bulb T5's, DJ Power Switch

12/13/2011, 11:11 PM	#14
GvineReefer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 175	New PVC bottom tank and sump from Planet Aquarium. __________________ GvineReefer Current Tank Info: 120-gal tank/sump from Planet Aquarium, 2xMP40W ES, Apex Lite, Reef Octopus XP2000SSS, NextReef SMR1 bio-pellet reactor, BRS carbon reactor, Mag7 for manifold, QuietOne 5000 return, Bubble Magus doser, 48" TEK 8-bulb T5's, DJ Power Switch

12/14/2011, 08:01 AM	#16
Amoore311 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ulster County, NY Posts: 2,521	I think it has to do with making sure the surface the tank sits on is completely level. The foam will allow the tank to sink a little bit, and self level.... negating any slight inconsistencies in the material the tank is sitting in. I have a rimless 100 Gallon cube myself (standard glass bottom). I was told by the tank manufacturer to absolutely put 1/4"-1/2" Foam under the tank. __________________ 30 Gallon FOWLR 2004-2006 90 Gallon LPS Reef 2006-2008 180 Gallon SPS Reef 2008-20012 100 Gallon Custom Rimless Mixed Reef 2012-2014 29 Gallon Biocube Reef! Current Current Tank Info: 29 Gallon Biocube, StevesLED Upgrade, Neptune Apex

12/14/2011, 08:10 AM	#17
power boat jim Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wisconsin, The big peninsula Posts: 2,100	There is no need to put styrofoam under a glass tank if things are done properly.

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