60G ML Cube - 2 MP10s or 1 MP40

92reefer · 01/28/2012, 12:01 PM

I'm still saving up the funds to replace my Koralia's and see alot of debate on this subject on all kinds of different tanks.

Just wondering what the best approach would be for my 60G cube (24x24x24)?

I don't want too much flow in the tank to make my sand blow and that's a major concern. I also don't want to spend more than about 500 bucks on powerheads so it's either 2 MP10s or 1 MP40. I'm using ESV White Calcium Carbonate Reef Substrate (Fine)

I was thinking one MP40 would be enought to eliminate dead spots in the tank and be more than enough flow if I wanted to upgrade my tank down the line but I wonder if the syncing of 2 MP10s would be worth more?

92reefer · 01/30/2012, 08:06 PM

any ML 60G cube owners care to chime in if they Vortechs?

sinful · 01/30/2012, 08:45 PM

I'd definitely go with 2 mp10s. Random flow and ability to sync would make it an easy decision IMO.

Tim Cannon · 01/30/2012, 08:50 PM

1 mp40 would be okay but 2 mp10 will be better. I started with one mp40 and noticed everything pulling to the side which had the mp40. when running two everything seemed a little more natural.

jlanger · 01/30/2012, 09:26 PM

I am currently running two MP10w ES on a 45gal cube.

Over the past year, I have placed the pumps in various arrangements to find the best flow.
I've had them both on one side or the back and I definitely did not like it.
One on each side has been the most acceptable.
I used to run Tidal Swell Mode (Anti-synch @ 75%), but have been running Reef Crest (Anti-synch @ 75%) for the past couple of months.

Having a cube tank makes it difficult to achieve a nice gyre effect.
Since all the side dimensions are the same, you either get a whirlpool effect or the two pumps basically battle one another head to head.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Vortechs. It's the tank shape that makes it a challenge.

It would be nice to hear what arrangements others have with their pumps on a cube.

-JASON

bid2ask · 01/30/2012, 09:42 PM

2 10's would be awesome

drw94 · 01/30/2012, 09:55 PM

I don't run a ML 60, but a Glassgages 60 Cube cube. I have one MP40 and one MP10. I still have to upgrade the MP10 to the wireless version to sync everything. I think the MP40 is enough, but I had a MP10 laying around so I added it. I think it added enough to make it worth while. My 2 cents. I would always choose two pumps over one. You have a little more to work with. Two MP40 I think would be best, you can always dial them down.

92reefer · 02/03/2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drw94

I don't run a ML 60, but a Glassgages 60 Cube cube. I have one MP40 and one MP10. I still have to upgrade the MP10 to the wireless version to sync everything. I think the MP40 is enough, but I had a MP10 laying around so I added it. I think it added enough to make it worth while. My 2 cents. I would always choose two pumps over one. You have a little more to work with. Two MP40 I think would be best, you can always dial them down.

Only problem with 2 MP40s is I don't want to have a grand tied up in my powerheads. So it's either 2 MP10s or 1 MP40. Still stuck on which would be better?

Haddonisreef · 02/03/2012, 01:06 PM

I'm going w 2 10s on my cube!

njudson · 02/03/2012, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92reefer

Only problem with 2 MP40s is I don't want to have a grand tied up in my powerheads. So it's either 2 MP10s or 1 MP40. Still stuck on which would be better?

I have 1 mp40 due to my 1/2" glass. Otherwise would have went with 2 10s ... actually had to trade away my 10s for this 40.

andrewbram · 02/03/2012, 02:04 PM

I am with you 92 I have 75g 48in long I just put in one mp10 with my k4 it was really cool to see stuff moving needless to say I think I am going second mp10 route instead of mp40.

kevin28 · 02/03/2012, 06:58 PM

I have 2 mp10s on my 45 cube running at about 75% reef crest (anti-sync) on opposite sides

01/28/2012, 12:01 PM	#1
92reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 994	60G ML Cube - 2 MP10s or 1 MP40 I'm still saving up the funds to replace my Koralia's and see alot of debate on this subject on all kinds of different tanks. Just wondering what the best approach would be for my 60G cube (24x24x24)? I don't want too much flow in the tank to make my sand blow and that's a major concern. I also don't want to spend more than about 500 bucks on powerheads so it's either 2 MP10s or 1 MP40. I'm using ESV White Calcium Carbonate Reef Substrate (Fine) I was thinking one MP40 would be enought to eliminate dead spots in the tank and be more than enough flow if I wanted to upgrade my tank down the line but I wonder if the syncing of 2 MP10s would be worth more?

01/30/2012, 08:45 PM	#3
sinful Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 2,085	I'd definitely go with 2 mp10s. Random flow and ability to sync would make it an easy decision IMO. __________________ -Matt

01/30/2012, 08:50 PM	#4
Tim Cannon Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 240	1 mp40 would be okay but 2 mp10 will be better. I started with one mp40 and noticed everything pulling to the side which had the mp40. when running two everything seemed a little more natural. __________________ Tim IndianRocks Beach

01/30/2012, 09:55 PM	#7
drw94 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Santa Maria, Ca. Posts: 244	I don't run a ML 60, but a Glassgages 60 Cube cube. I have one MP40 and one MP10. I still have to upgrade the MP10 to the wireless version to sync everything. I think the MP40 is enough, but I had a MP10 laying around so I added it. I think it added enough to make it worth while. My 2 cents. I would always choose two pumps over one. You have a little more to work with. Two MP40 I think would be best, you can always dial them down. __________________ Glasscages 60 Cube, Apex, MP40/ MP10 B+, 250 Phoenix, royal blue LEDs Reef Dynamic INS100 GAC Reactors BRS 2 part/ Bubble Magus Doser, Avast Kalk Stirrer Current Tank Info: 60 Cube

01/30/2012, 08:06 PM	#2
92reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ellenton Florida Posts: 994	any ML 60G cube owners care to chime in if they Vortechs?

01/30/2012, 09:26 PM	#5
jlanger Get busy living... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New Richmond, WI Posts: 406	I am currently running two MP10w ES on a 45gal cube. Over the past year, I have placed the pumps in various arrangements to find the best flow. I've had them both on one side or the back and I definitely did not like it. One on each side has been the most acceptable. I used to run Tidal Swell Mode (Anti-synch @ 75%), but have been running Reef Crest (Anti-synch @ 75%) for the past couple of months. Having a cube tank makes it difficult to achieve a nice gyre effect. Since all the side dimensions are the same, you either get a whirlpool effect or the two pumps basically battle one another head to head. Don't get me wrong, I love the Vortechs. It's the tank shape that makes it a challenge. It would be nice to hear what arrangements others have with their pumps on a cube. -JASON

01/30/2012, 09:42 PM	#6
bid2ask Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Port Jefferson NY Posts: 171	2 10's would be awesome

02/03/2012, 01:06 PM	#9
Haddonisreef Registered Member. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Where ever she needs me Posts: 2,902	I'm going w 2 10s on my cube!

02/03/2012, 02:04 PM	#11
andrewbram Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 337	I am with you 92 I have 75g 48in long I just put in one mp10 with my k4 it was really cool to see stuff moving needless to say I think I am going second mp10 route instead of mp40.

02/03/2012, 06:58 PM	#12
kevin28 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Covington,WA Posts: 137	I have 2 mp10s on my 45 cube running at about 75% reef crest (anti-sync) on opposite sides