Is my tank and stand sturdy?

[Saltydrip]

I have a flimsy steal stand. It wobbles when I clean my front glass. I build some crazy stuff for a living. I'm fine with it. I'm sure you will never have a problem. I used to rent a nice new house like yours with big rooms and because of the open flore space everything had a bit of bounce to it. My 50" tv would move a little when I walked past. I'm sure your tank is fine. Like I said. Once the wares surface has some flow you won't notice it.

One problem with a stand with full contact with the floor doesn't work in all houses. I have a 300 year old home with random width oak floors. They are kinda random hight too. The floor joists are hand cut/chiseled trees. My floors arnt close to flat. There is no way a solid base stand would work. The base of my stand has threaded adjustable pads with only about a 1x1" area holding up each corner.

[dakineacct]

Originally Posted by Pillgrimm

Ideally the vertical supports would be all the way to the edges of the tank. In the pictures it looks like the tank carries over past the vertical supports. The thin shelf on the top of the stand doesn't carry weight, it transfers it down the vertical supports, and having overhang where the tank goes past the vertical supports would make it more susceptible to wobble. It doesn't look like much hangover, but it's some, and I would think the more hangover, the more motion, if any, from the floor, etc would transfer to tank movement. I'm not suggesting the amount of hangover would lead to a catastrophe, rather that, if you have a wobble issue where movement is transferring to the tank, a stand which supported the tank all the way around the edges would reduce the amount of motion transferred.

This VERY minimal amount of overhang of this stand is not contributing to the observed movement of water in the tank when someone walks pass the tank.

[RubberFrog]

A lot of folks on this forum aren't happy unless you're tank is on a concrete pedestal. A brand new stand from a tank manufacturer is not going to be a problem. Your tank moves when people walk past because you have a little deflection in your floor. Don't worry about it.

[Meshmez]

The stand itself looks fine, vibration on the water is normal. What i was saying is that when you dont have the weight supported across the entire length of the tank, the weight of the tank is transferred to the floor in small areas or points. I would just be worried that unless it was on a concrete slab, the fact that the part of the tank that contacts the floor isnt symmetrical, and isnt very wide, you could have issues... not with the stand, but with the floor. Think of it this way, if a 100# woman in high heels walks on grass she may easily sink a heel into the dirt. However, a 250# person with size 14 show isnt very likely to put their foot through the dirt. Same way snow shoes work.

If you could make sure the 2 short sides of the stand were directly over the floor joists underneath, it would negate the worry i would have.

[dakineacct]

Originally Posted by Meshmez

If you could make sure the 2 short sides of the stand were directly over the floor joists underneath, it would negate the worry i would have.

Put your worries to rest, the two side vertical supports of the stand are resting on hardwood flooring installed on sub flooring, which is supported by floor joists running perpendicular to the tank. The floor system (hardwood floors & subfloor) transfers the load of the tank to several joists.

[Saltydrip]

Originally Posted by dakineacct

put your worries to rest, the two side vertical supports of the stand are resting on hardwood flooring installed on sub flooring, which is supported by floor joists running perpendicular to the tank. The floor system (hardwood floors & subfloor) transfers the load of the tank to several joists.

+1

[James77]

Originally Posted by RubberFrog

A lot of folks on this forum aren't happy unless you're tank is on a concrete pedestal. A brand new stand from a tank manufacturer is not going to be a problem. Your tank moves when people walk past because you have a little deflection in your floor. Don't worry about it.

+1 to this. The stand is plenty strong and I would not have any worries about using it exactly as it is.

If your tank moves enough to maje you uncomfortable, you could put jack posts(kind of expensive) or even 2xsomethings(nice and cheap) to support directly underneath it. I think the floor as is is fine to support it, 90s dont really weight that much, but adding support would just solidify everything. I have had a 175 gallon tank sitting 5 feet out from a main support beam. I used a jack and beam, but even after 2 years it did not noticeably settle(evident by shims being under same pressure as beginning).

[Ben34105]

Are you going to leave it infront of the light switches? If a switch ever goes bad you'll have to break down and move the tank.

[gmate]

I wouldn't feel comfortable with that stand. that's just my opinion.

[bundybear1981]

Originally Posted by Ben34105

Are you going to leave it infront of the light switches? If a switch ever goes bad you'll have to break down and move the tank.

+1 here If leaving it in front of switches I would make sure there is enough space for an electrician to be able to replace the switches. A full tank can't be moved forward to give access.
I think that a foot should be enough but someone might be able to give a better space recommendation for you.

But back to your OP, I think that the stand is stable enough and its just the floor movement that is unnerving you. Good luck! Looking forward to seeing the pics as it progresses!

[bnumair]

cant pin point but something dont look good about the stand. it just dont seem sturdy enough to me for 1000 lbs or so. just my opinion,
was the stand made for a tank to go on top? or is it just a stand u purchased.

[James77]

The stand was manufactured by perfecto, so I'm sure they realize what it will be supporting and built it appropriately. I think people think to much about the weight of tanks, 1000 pounds is not that much weight and most stands tend to be way overbuilt because of it. When I built my very first tank I used 4x4s because of the "massive" weight. I could build one from 1x4s now that would be more than adequate in supporting a tank.

I think what throws people of with this stand is its lack of a front part touching the floor? It has a piece of wood on end running horizontally tracnsferring that weight to the ends. It even has middle support built into that transferring again into the sides. Even without that middle brace in the front, that top support board is only really holding less than 300 pounds of the total weight...not a whole lot. Each linear foot of that stand- 11 feet- is holding about 90 pounds.

[Bliz]

My main concern with the stand is that there's no where to put a sump, fuge or even a canister filter. You would have to DIY some holes through the back of the stand to run any kind of plumbing/wiring and even then it doesn't seem that there is enough room for any kind of filter down below.

What kind of filtration are you planning on running?

[Saltydrip]

That was my first thought. It would be a good stand for a basement sump!!! Solve all your problems!!!! Build a 2x4 rack from floor to sealing just under the tank and you can have a sump as well as stiffen up the floor. 2birds with a phew 2x4s and some plywood!!

[Playa-1]

Originally Posted by Saltydrip

That was my first thought. It would be a good stand for a basement sump!!! Solve all your problems!!!! Build a 2x4 rack from floor to sealing just under the tank and you can have a sump as well as stiffen up the floor. 2birds with a phew 2x4s and some plywood!!

Now we're talkin

[James77]

Originally Posted by Ben34105

Are you going to leave it infront of the light switches? If a switch ever goes bad you'll have to break down and move the tank.

This is a good point.....

Even were they to stay, I'd be somewhat concerned with splashing saltwater and salt creep. Moving them shouldn't be too bad. At the very least I would replce them with brand new ones if the house is more than 10 years or so to buy time....

[Saltydrip]

I could replace a switch no problem with about 4" between the tank and wall.

[Meshmez]

Originally Posted by Saltydrip

That was my first thought. It would be a good stand for a basement sump!!! Solve all your problems!!!! Build a 2x4 rack from floor to sealing just under the tank and you can have a sump as well as stiffen up the floor. 2birds with a phew 2x4s and some plywood!!

Better reinforce the basement floor then...





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