ozone and ozone reactor questions

Waddleboy · 02/24/2012, 06:42 PM

I am thinking about running ozone on my 90 reef. I have been reading up on it and think i have the basic idea of it. The idea is that i would control everything through the apex to keep everything in check. I would probably be building my own reactor. I guess my problem is setting it up with the reactor because it doesnt really make sense to me. This may be better of in diy but i wasnt really sure... oh well....

The way i see it is that you have air pump going to an air dryer that then connect to an ozone generator. The generator then feeds a cylinder with media in it and this has two plates in at the top and bottom. The top plate is to diffuse the water entering the chamber and the bottom plate is to hole the media off the bottom. In the reactor the water and air both come in. The water exits out of the bottom to a carbon source and then back into the tank. Also the excess air must be filter by carbon too. And all this is pressurized so that thats why there is a low water level in the reactor?

My questions are where does the air line out go because if you put it in the reactor wouldnt it not generate enough enough air pressure to push the water out into the carbon filter? Also can this be connected a brs dual reactor for carbon and GFO or would the ozone ruin the GFO?

Pics of anyone who has done this would be helpful. Thanks for the help!

Waddleboy · 02/24/2012, 10:03 PM

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Rploaded · 02/24/2012, 10:11 PM

I would like to learn about this too. Bump for good questions...

USC-fan · 02/24/2012, 10:28 PM

Its easy to build. Easiest way to build. If you know how a tlf phosban reactor works? Just run the water backwards so it enter the top. Drill 2 holes in the top for air lines. One goes to the bottom to an air stone this is the input for air. You set the water level with the second air line.this is the exit for the air. I have my air set about 1/3 from the Bolton. I run that line into my skiimer... between the reactor and Skimmer I put a air valve and have this half close.

Waddleboy · 02/24/2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by USC-fan

Its easy to build. Easiest way to build. If you know how a tlf phosban reactor works? Just run the water backwards so it enter the top. Drill 2 holes in the top for air lines. One goes to the bottom to an air stone this is the input for air. You set the water level with the second air line.this is the exit for the air. I have my air set about 1/3 from the Bolton. I run that line into my skiimer... between the reactor and Skimmer I put a air valve and have this half close.

Thank you USC. Okay that makes a lot of sense. Now i have more questions for you haha. 1. why do i need an exit line? Couldnt i just infuse the right pressure and maximize the ozone enter? that may not work and over pressurize they system and cause it to explode (bad thing). 2. can i run it into the GFO and Carbon reactor without any ill effects? 3. what fittings would i use as i know ozone likes to chew through most materials? 4. if i drill a hole in the top for the airline, how would i seal it? Can silicone hold that pressure when bond to acrylic? Thanks again

USC-fan · 02/25/2012, 01:02 AM

Do you have a tlf reactor do you know how they work? The water flows the opposite to tfl reactor. The water exit the center pipe. You use the air exit to set the water level and to keep air out of the center pipe water exit. This center pipe runs from the bottom back to the top. So the water enters at the top falls to the bottom and travel back up the center pipe to the top to exit.

I will have to draw you a diagram but I'm on my tablet right now. Google coralife ozone reactor. This is what I talking about...

Waddleboy · 02/25/2012, 01:27 AM

I understand how that works. instead of normally working like a tlf reactor that pushes water through the substrate the water is going back and traveling up the center channel. I guess that wasnt really the question i was asking. Sorry if i said it wrong. I was more curious the purpose of the air line exit, how to make a seal strong enough in the top of acrylic around the air tube that can withstand the pressure, if i can run the effluent through gfo and what connectors can i use that are ozone safe. sorry for the misunderstanding

USC-fan · 02/25/2012, 08:09 AM

Okay good. The airline exit is to keep a stable water level and to keep air out of the water exit. They sell ozone safe tubing and fittings.

I'm not sure how to make the good seal BC I brought mine. But there is very little pressure in the system.

Here is a good article that may help you. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php

I usedthe coralife ozone reactor for yearsj with good results.

Waddleboy · 02/25/2012, 03:53 PM

That was a good article. Thank you. Guess now just got to figure out if I can do this or not. Does anyone still know about running ozone through gfo?

02/24/2012, 06:42 PM	#1
Waddleboy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 766	ozone and ozone reactor questions I am thinking about running ozone on my 90 reef. I have been reading up on it and think i have the basic idea of it. The idea is that i would control everything through the apex to keep everything in check. I would probably be building my own reactor. I guess my problem is setting it up with the reactor because it doesnt really make sense to me. This may be better of in diy but i wasnt really sure... oh well.... The way i see it is that you have air pump going to an air dryer that then connect to an ozone generator. The generator then feeds a cylinder with media in it and this has two plates in at the top and bottom. The top plate is to diffuse the water entering the chamber and the bottom plate is to hole the media off the bottom. In the reactor the water and air both come in. The water exits out of the bottom to a carbon source and then back into the tank. Also the excess air must be filter by carbon too. And all this is pressurized so that thats why there is a low water level in the reactor? My questions are where does the air line out go because if you put it in the reactor wouldnt it not generate enough enough air pressure to push the water out into the carbon filter? Also can this be connected a brs dual reactor for carbon and GFO or would the ozone ruin the GFO? Pics of anyone who has done this would be helpful. Thanks for the help!

02/25/2012, 01:02 AM	#6
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	Do you have a tlf reactor do you know how they work? The water flows the opposite to tfl reactor. The water exit the center pipe. You use the air exit to set the water level and to keep air out of the center pipe water exit. This center pipe runs from the bottom back to the top. So the water enters at the top falls to the bottom and travel back up the center pipe to the top to exit. I will have to draw you a diagram but I'm on my tablet right now. Google coralife ozone reactor. This is what I talking about... Last edited by USC-fan; 02/25/2012 at 01:08 AM.

02/24/2012, 10:03 PM	#2
Waddleboy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 766	bump

02/24/2012, 10:11 PM	#3
Rploaded Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 361	I would like to learn about this too. Bump for good questions...

02/24/2012, 10:28 PM	#4
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	Its easy to build. Easiest way to build. If you know how a tlf phosban reactor works? Just run the water backwards so it enter the top. Drill 2 holes in the top for air lines. One goes to the bottom to an air stone this is the input for air. You set the water level with the second air line.this is the exit for the air. I have my air set about 1/3 from the Bolton. I run that line into my skiimer... between the reactor and Skimmer I put a air valve and have this half close.

02/25/2012, 01:27 AM	#7
Waddleboy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 766	I understand how that works. instead of normally working like a tlf reactor that pushes water through the substrate the water is going back and traveling up the center channel. I guess that wasnt really the question i was asking. Sorry if i said it wrong. I was more curious the purpose of the air line exit, how to make a seal strong enough in the top of acrylic around the air tube that can withstand the pressure, if i can run the effluent through gfo and what connectors can i use that are ozone safe. sorry for the misunderstanding

02/25/2012, 08:09 AM	#8
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	Okay good. The airline exit is to keep a stable water level and to keep air out of the water exit. They sell ozone safe tubing and fittings. I'm not sure how to make the good seal BC I brought mine. But there is very little pressure in the system. Here is a good article that may help you. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-04/rhf/index.php I usedthe coralife ozone reactor for yearsj with good results.

02/25/2012, 03:53 PM	#9
Waddleboy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 766	That was a good article. Thank you. Guess now just got to figure out if I can do this or not. Does anyone still know about running ozone through gfo?