how would i go about mounting on the glass?

rajkovich207 · 03/01/2012, 01:24 PM

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I often see people with Corals like monti caps attached to the back pane of glass. I was wondering how I could do this. I have a small piece of monti about 3"x2" and attempted to attach it with super glue and the rock scaping putty but it fell off within a week. If anyone could give me some pointers on how to do this I would greatly appreciate it! TIA and happy reefing, Tony.

faisal629 · 03/01/2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rajkovich207

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I often see people with Corals like monti caps attached to the back pane of glass. I was wondering how I could do this. I have a small piece of monti about 3"x2" and attempted to attach it with super glue and the rock scaping putty but it fell off within a week. If anyone could give me some pointers on how to do this I would greatly appreciate it! TIA and happy reefing, Tony.

im sorry if im wrong, are you talking about a frag rack?

tibob32 · 03/01/2012, 01:29 PM

you'll need magnets for that

rajkovich207 · 03/01/2012, 01:42 PM

No I actually want to mount the coral its self on the back of the wall to grow out into the tank. Sorry I didn't clarify that in the first post.

acrohead500ppm · 03/01/2012, 01:54 PM

I would use a mixture of putty and super glue gel, use the superglue to prime the area on the glass that you want to mount the coral.

sdc19982002 · 03/01/2012, 03:05 PM

Mount the coral to a small magnet (i used a small glass cleaner) then you can still move it in the future if you need too.

Nonameben · 03/01/2012, 03:21 PM

I've been wondering the same thing, what sort of magnet could you use? I've seen the magnetic clips used for attaching seaweed for feeding, but are there magnets like that without the clip? I'm sure there are I just haven't seen any. Glad you asked this rajkovich!

mguiling · 03/01/2012, 05:12 PM

These hold marginally well through 1/2" glass, very well through 3/8", and I understand ceramic magnets are safe for salt water.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00_details

lordofthereef · 03/01/2012, 05:15 PM

The issue with using a magnet, unless I am misunderstanding the OP's goal, is that once the caps actually grow onto the glass, you either sacrifice the magnet, or risk breaking at least part of them off if you ever wants to use it again. I think most caps that "naturally" grow into the glass were just on a rock close to the glass to begin with. I would try gluing them to a flat plug, waiting a few weeks for it to grow onto the plug, and the epoxying the plug to the glass.

rajkovich207 · 03/01/2012, 06:49 PM

I have seen magnetic plugs now that you mention it. Just a couple of hours ago I tried the super glue putty combo and will see how it hold when everything is dry. If all else fails I will resort to the magnet plugs. Thank you so much for all the comments, I will update when I have the coral secured to the rock!

Meshmez · 03/01/2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lordofthereef

The issue with using a magnet, unless I am misunderstanding the OP's goal, is that once the caps actually grow onto the glass, you either sacrifice the magnet, or risk breaking at least part of them off if you ever wants to use it again.

Assuming the magnets in mguiling's post work, youre looking at about $0.20 per magnet with shipping... Pretty sure the magnet can be sacrificial.

hvacman250 · 03/01/2012, 08:58 PM

Clean the glass. Dry the frag where you want to glue. Place a dab of super glue gel on the frag. Place a ball of WaterWeld(or any other coral putty) on the super glue, then apply super glue to the other side of the putty ball. Smush into glass.

I have 5-6 acros on my glass and overflows using this method.

Nonameben · 03/01/2012, 09:59 PM

A friend just recommended http://www.aqua-mags.com/

I went to his build to ask how he mounted his monti on the wall, and showed me the website and a youtube video describing. I'm sold on it, picking one up soon!

tebstan · 03/01/2012, 10:12 PM

I used magnets to get my monti to the back glass. It was worth the price to make it easy and secure. I use magnets for all kinds of fun tank projects. I get all mine from K&J magnets, be sure to get the rubber coated ones.

FrogfishFeeder · 03/02/2012, 12:49 AM

I like magnets for my frogspawns so I can turn them ocasionally...
I dont really see good base growth out of my sps until they have been glued down for a bit, I tried 1frag of sps on a magnet but the magnet really stands out and I dont move it anyways....

To get a monti or sps to really grow on the glass, find or make a relatively flat spot on the frag, and glue it to a spot of coraline on the glass.
Then scrape the glass above the mounted frag clean of any coraline and, depending how good corals grow in your tank, it should encrust a base directly onto the glass fairly quickly.
Until the coral actually starts encrusting onto the glass, the attachment will be delicate and it may take a few attempts before success, a good flat, wide spot on the frag makes this easier(compared to trying to get something thin like half a plating monti to stick straight out).

Imo, Its best to use frags/coralsthat are already in your tank and established/proven growers for this, as they will encrust much much faster.

Glass wont really hold superglue with any reliability, but try to scrape an encrusted sps off it....

03/01/2012, 01:24 PM	#1
rajkovich207 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 177	how would i go about mounting on the glass? I wasn't sure where to post this, but I often see people with Corals like monti caps attached to the back pane of glass. I was wondering how I could do this. I have a small piece of monti about 3"x2" and attempted to attach it with super glue and the rock scaping putty but it fell off within a week. If anyone could give me some pointers on how to do this I would greatly appreciate it! TIA and happy reefing, Tony. __________________ There are three things you can't rush in life. 1) Reef keeping, 2) Fine art, And 3) A good poo. Now that I've figured this out, I need to decipher how Ive gone from a simple fish tank to a box of salty water containing colorful animals, with more electrical components than an ICU patient. Current Tank Info: 20G long (Drop) it may be just a drop of the ocean but its my drop and I love it!

03/01/2012, 01:42 PM	#4
rajkovich207 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 177	No I actually want to mount the coral its self on the back of the wall to grow out into the tank. Sorry I didn't clarify that in the first post. __________________ There are three things you can't rush in life. 1) Reef keeping, 2) Fine art, And 3) A good poo. Now that I've figured this out, I need to decipher how Ive gone from a simple fish tank to a box of salty water containing colorful animals, with more electrical components than an ICU patient. Current Tank Info: 20G long (Drop) it may be just a drop of the ocean but its my drop and I love it!

03/01/2012, 03:21 PM	#7
Nonameben Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suwanee, Georgia Posts: 394	I've been wondering the same thing, what sort of magnet could you use? I've seen the magnetic clips used for attaching seaweed for feeding, but are there magnets like that without the clip? I'm sure there are I just haven't seen any. Glad you asked this rajkovich! __________________ [url=http://drugstore-onlinecatalog.com/]drugstore-onlinecatalog.com[/url] Current Tank Info: 75g reef ready, 300w titanium heater, T5 4-bulb lighting, Eshopps sump, (2) marineland maxi-jet power heads at 750 gph each, sicce return pump, 80lbs live rock

03/01/2012, 05:15 PM	#9
lordofthereef One reef to rule them all Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leominster, MA Posts: 5,299	The issue with using a magnet, unless I am misunderstanding the OP's goal, is that once the caps actually grow onto the glass, you either sacrifice the magnet, or risk breaking at least part of them off if you ever wants to use it again. I think most caps that "naturally" grow into the glass were just on a rock close to the glass to begin with. I would try gluing them to a flat plug, waiting a few weeks for it to grow onto the plug, and the epoxying the plug to the glass. __________________ "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than you love yourself" ~ Josh Billings Visit My Home page for current build thread (click my user name and select "Visit LordoftheReef's Homepage" in the drop down menu!

03/01/2012, 06:49 PM	#10
rajkovich207 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 177	I have seen magnetic plugs now that you mention it. Just a couple of hours ago I tried the super glue putty combo and will see how it hold when everything is dry. If all else fails I will resort to the magnet plugs. Thank you so much for all the comments, I will update when I have the coral secured to the rock! __________________ There are three things you can't rush in life. 1) Reef keeping, 2) Fine art, And 3) A good poo. Now that I've figured this out, I need to decipher how Ive gone from a simple fish tank to a box of salty water containing colorful animals, with more electrical components than an ICU patient. Current Tank Info: 20G long (Drop) it may be just a drop of the ocean but its my drop and I love it!

03/01/2012, 01:29 PM	#3
tibob32 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 550	you'll need magnets for that

03/01/2012, 01:54 PM	#5
acrohead500ppm Moved On Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: No,never,never Posts: 723	I would use a mixture of putty and super glue gel, use the superglue to prime the area on the glass that you want to mount the coral.

03/01/2012, 03:05 PM	#6
sdc19982002 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wills Point,Texas Posts: 925	Mount the coral to a small magnet (i used a small glass cleaner) then you can still move it in the future if you need too.

03/01/2012, 05:12 PM	#8
mguiling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New Jersey, near Philadelphia Posts: 199	These hold marginally well through 1/2" glass, very well through 3/8", and I understand ceramic magnets are safe for salt water. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00_details

03/01/2012, 08:58 PM	#12
hvacman250 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 733	Clean the glass. Dry the frag where you want to glue. Place a dab of super glue gel on the frag. Place a ball of WaterWeld(or any other coral putty) on the super glue, then apply super glue to the other side of the putty ball. Smush into glass. I have 5-6 acros on my glass and overflows using this method. __________________ 220 in-wall reef, 10 clown pairs, 4 fry tanks, 18 grow-out tanks Current Tank Info: 220 in-wall reef, clownfish breeding/growout system, 20L coral QT and 29 fish QT

03/01/2012, 09:59 PM	#13
Nonameben Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suwanee, Georgia Posts: 394	A friend just recommended http://www.aqua-mags.com/ I went to his build to ask how he mounted his monti on the wall, and showed me the website and a youtube video describing. I'm sold on it, picking one up soon! __________________ [url=http://drugstore-onlinecatalog.com/]drugstore-onlinecatalog.com[/url] Current Tank Info: 75g reef ready, 300w titanium heater, T5 4-bulb lighting, Eshopps sump, (2) marineland maxi-jet power heads at 750 gph each, sicce return pump, 80lbs live rock

03/01/2012, 10:12 PM	#14
tebstan Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 961	I used magnets to get my monti to the back glass. It was worth the price to make it easy and secure. I use magnets for all kinds of fun tank projects. I get all mine from K&J magnets, be sure to get the rubber coated ones. __________________ Washington's Rule #110: Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire called conscience.

03/02/2012, 12:49 AM	#15
FrogfishFeeder Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: 916 Posts: 91	I like magnets for my frogspawns so I can turn them ocasionally... I dont really see good base growth out of my sps until they have been glued down for a bit, I tried 1frag of sps on a magnet but the magnet really stands out and I dont move it anyways.... To get a monti or sps to really grow on the glass, find or make a relatively flat spot on the frag, and glue it to a spot of coraline on the glass. Then scrape the glass above the mounted frag clean of any coraline and, depending how good corals grow in your tank, it should encrust a base directly onto the glass fairly quickly. Until the coral actually starts encrusting onto the glass, the attachment will be delicate and it may take a few attempts before success, a good flat, wide spot on the frag makes this easier(compared to trying to get something thin like half a plating monti to stick straight out). Imo, Its best to use frags/coralsthat are already in your tank and established/proven growers for this, as they will encrust much much faster. Glass wont really hold superglue with any reliability, but try to scrape an encrusted sps off it.... __________________ 75g mixed reef 65g double angler tank