what is this?

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 07:38 PM

hey guys sorry if this is in the wrong place. and i have been un able to find any info on this. here are some pictures, i would like to know what it is and is it bad or good or neither thanks

there is some web looking stuff coming from them.

tkeracer619 · 05/02/2012, 07:40 PM

vermatid snail

They are harmless but their web can irritate corals.

I would be more worried about the asternia stars.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 07:52 PM

What Is used to control the stars?

tkeracer619 · 05/02/2012, 08:07 PM

Manual removal.

Misled · 05/02/2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

Manual removal.

Agreed. I worked at mine for about a month. Just grabbed them with a large set of tweezers. If I saw one, I'd get it out. This was over a year ago. Haven't seen any.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 08:46 PM

there are hundreds i can see, im going to be busy.

Misled · 05/02/2012, 08:54 PM

There are hundreds you can't see. And yes you are.

I just spent five or ten minutes a few times a day. It gets better as time goes on.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 09:03 PM

Thanks for advise guys. I new they were a pest just didn't know try did damage

tkeracer619 · 05/02/2012, 09:07 PM

They might or might not do damage. There are over a thousand species. Most are harmless but a hobbyist cannot determine the differences.

You also seem to have some nutrient issues or lack of clean up crew based on the algae in the pictures. Consider increasing nutrient export, reducing feeding, and adding some mexican turbo snails.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 09:23 PM

I feed once a day. I do need a clean up crew there is not much of one currently. What do you mean about nutrient export?

tkeracer619 · 05/02/2012, 09:32 PM

Skimming, water changes, gfo, macro algae, carbon, carbon dosing, manual removal, ect.

Misled · 05/02/2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by datsunfiveten

What do you mean about nutrient export?

More water changes, fuge, carbon. There's lots of ways. It's most likely the reason there's so mant stars. They need nutrients to breed out of control like that.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 09:34 PM

Oh gotcha. Never herd it called that before.

tkeracer619 · 05/02/2012, 09:39 PM

Essentially in our closed systems you must remove what you put in. If you don't everything goes great for a while and then it all comes crashing down rapidly.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 09:50 PM

Yea I can see that. The tank was doing great.
I think what triggered it. Was I got a foxface and he was being bullyed by my tang. Do to only feeding about once every 3 days. So he was hiding all the time. So I have been feeding daily and the alge, stars and snails have gotten bad. After about a 2 weeks of daily feeding the fish get along.

datsunfiveten · 05/02/2012, 09:53 PM

I have a 180 gal with a 40 gal sump. I use a skimmer. And a sock filter only. I do 20 to 30 gal water change a week. I started growin macro alge in sump but it started smelling after about 2 months

05/02/2012, 07:38 PM	#1
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	what is this? hey guys sorry if this is in the wrong place. and i have been un able to find any info on this. here are some pictures, i would like to know what it is and is it bad or good or neither thanks there is some web looking stuff coming from them.

05/02/2012, 07:40 PM	#2
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	vermatid snail They are harmless but their web can irritate corals. I would be more worried about the asternia stars. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

05/02/2012, 08:07 PM	#4
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Manual removal. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

05/02/2012, 08:54 PM	#7
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	There are hundreds you can't see. And yes you are. I just spent five or ten minutes a few times a day. It gets better as time goes on. __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

05/02/2012, 09:07 PM	#9
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	They might or might not do damage. There are over a thousand species. Most are harmless but a hobbyist cannot determine the differences. You also seem to have some nutrient issues or lack of clean up crew based on the algae in the pictures. Consider increasing nutrient export, reducing feeding, and adding some mexican turbo snails. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

05/02/2012, 07:52 PM	#3
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	What Is used to control the stars?

05/02/2012, 08:46 PM	#6
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	there are hundreds i can see, im going to be busy.

05/02/2012, 09:03 PM	#8
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	Thanks for advise guys. I new they were a pest just didn't know try did damage

05/02/2012, 09:23 PM	#10
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	I feed once a day. I do need a clean up crew there is not much of one currently. What do you mean about nutrient export?

05/02/2012, 09:32 PM	#11
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Skimming, water changes, gfo, macro algae, carbon, carbon dosing, manual removal, ect. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

05/02/2012, 09:34 PM	#13
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	Oh gotcha. Never herd it called that before.

05/02/2012, 09:39 PM	#14
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Essentially in our closed systems you must remove what you put in. If you don't everything goes great for a while and then it all comes crashing down rapidly. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

05/02/2012, 09:50 PM	#15
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	Yea I can see that. The tank was doing great. I think what triggered it. Was I got a foxface and he was being bullyed by my tang. Do to only feeding about once every 3 days. So he was hiding all the time. So I have been feeding daily and the alge, stars and snails have gotten bad. After about a 2 weeks of daily feeding the fish get along.

05/02/2012, 09:53 PM	#16
datsunfiveten Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 138	I have a 180 gal with a 40 gal sump. I use a skimmer. And a sock filter only. I do 20 to 30 gal water change a week. I started growin macro alge in sump but it started smelling after about 2 months