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Unread 05/15/2012, 08:27 AM   #1
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Unhappy Dead crab

my emerald crab died yesterday (RIP dude). He was really cool, and I'm not sure why he died. I checked my parameters and all is great. But my question is, should I remove his body? Before you answer, know that it is on the bottom in the middle of my rock work. So I would have to move most of my rock to get him. Thanks all!


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Unread 05/15/2012, 08:31 AM   #2
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Naw let it stay. Don't mess up you rock work for a little crab. If you have hermit crabs the will eat it. The shell will become part of the rock work. Nature taking it's course.


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Unread 05/15/2012, 08:49 AM   #3
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Do you have other inverts, like Turbo Snails, in your tank? If turbo snails, hermit crabs, shrimp, etc. are all still alive and ok, then it was probably old age or something else specific to the crab (maybe it ate something bad like dino). If you don't have the other inverts or they are also sickly and/or dying, then it could be a bad water parameter or a contaminant, usually copper. You could try adding a Poly-Bio-Marine, Inc. Poly-Filter to detect and clean out the contaminant.


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:06 AM   #4
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I have a full CUC all seem fine. Haven't seen my pep shrimp in a couple days, but that's not unusual


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:07 AM   #5
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I'll leave him though and continue to monitor it


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:09 AM   #6
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Haven't seen my pep shrimp in a couple days, but that's not unusual
Your Peppermint can now enjoy its job


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:10 AM   #7
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Are you certain it wasn't a molt?


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:13 AM   #8
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Are you certain it wasn't a molt?
Excellent point (with your post #666, btw). I feel silly not thinking of that sooner.


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Unread 05/15/2012, 09:14 AM   #9
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Are you certain it wasn't a molt?
+1 thats what i was gunna say


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I was going to ask about molting but I assumed you knew it want dead for sure. After they molt they hide for a day or so until their shell hardens. So if your not sure then you will see after a couple of days pass.


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I can't get a great view of it, but looks more solid than a molt, also my kids saw him upside down on the sand bed yesterday, still moving a bit.


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Either way you don't have to remove it.


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Unread 05/15/2012, 10:49 AM   #13
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Unread 06/15/2012, 05:59 AM   #14
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A surprising update to this one...exactly one month since my crab "died" and who do I see in the corner of my tank? Mr. Emerald crab. I'm baffled by this one. The strange thing is he used to be pretty open, hanging out in my Xenia or picking at algae in the corner of my tank. What obviously was a molt seemed to make him very shy. I am constantly watching my tank and for me not to see him for a month means he hides all day at least. I'm so glad he is alive, but is this normal in any way?


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Maybe they need lots of calcium durring the "hardening" process so it went slower and made him a "hermit" lol. Glad to hear your crab is good...I will be putting as many of these as my tank can support or that is safe for everything else....they are kewl to watch and awesome looking.


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Unread 06/15/2012, 07:18 AM   #16
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My porcelain did the same. I saw his shell and had his filiment hands there too so I was sure he was dead...especially isnce they are running about $15 nowadays....well 2 days later I saw him out in his normal spot filtering water for food.


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Maybe they need lots of calcium durring the "hardening" process so it went slower and made him a "hermit" lol. Glad to hear your crab is good...I will be putting as many of these as my tank can support or that is safe for everything else....they are kewl to watch and awesome looking.
Yep, after the molt they are vulnerable and hide. One of my Porcelain Anemone Crabs hid for about 4 days after its last molt. My Scarlet Cleaner Shrimps hide for less than a day.

As sponger0 mentioned, I recommend Porcelain Crabs over Emerald Crabs. Emeralds will get big and eat anything they can catch, including other crustaceans and fish. Porcelain Crabs are filter feeders and are far less likely to attack anything else in the tank. They don't even harass my little Sexy Shrimp (as you can see in the picture below).

If you have empty anemones, then the Porcelain Anemone Crabs (Neopetrolisthes ohshimai and Neopetrolisthes maculatus) will associate with them where you can see them all the time (really cool).



I ordered Porcelain Crabs from my LFS, and they got me a Porcelain Rock Crab (need to be specific). My Petrolisthes galathinus is nice, but since it doesn't associate with an anemone I don't see it as much. When I feed the tank, it pops out and starts waving its filter fans - that looks pretty cool.




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