new frogspawn lps questions

cap11885 · 06/21/2012, 10:42 AM

so im trying my hand with an lps. i purchased a 5 head and brought it home its been two days and one of the heads dosent look so well now. i placed it high and over 6 inches from anything else. under good t-5 lighting. i have turbulent water flow with 4 controlable pumps running in cycles. how long should it take for it to open? it apears partly open. i read it likes high flow? i keep mostly softies and have always been sucessful with them.

reefnewbie83177 · 06/21/2012, 11:34 AM

In my experience (which isn't much) frogspawn actually like to be placed lower in the tank. I have mine on the bottom, with indirect moderate flow. You don't want it's polyps moving chaotically. Just a gentle back and forth. Also, it may need to just adjust to your system. When I moved my down to the bottom it was closed up and didn't look great for several days. Then he perked right back up. LPS don't need nearly the light that SPS need so no need to have him up near the surface.

good luck

Sk8r · 06/21/2012, 11:52 AM

What's your alkalinity and calcium and magnesium levels? my sig line has good readings for them.

fishgate · 06/21/2012, 12:05 PM

Mine did very well for the first week or so. Then started to get worse and worse. 2 heads popped out. One head was pretty much always happy and still is. So now I have the two popped heads in a glass in the tank, hoping one day they will grow rock again. I changed the lighting schedule from 13 hours to 6 and it is overall much happier. I put it right about mid-way in the tank. Mine seems to like moderate to low flow.

TjwBlake · 06/21/2012, 12:25 PM

they need gental flow, just enough to make them sway a little bit in the current

dannyp02908 · 06/21/2012, 12:50 PM

Exactly as others have stated. Turbulent flow isnt very nice for LPS. They just need a gentle indirect flow. Also, alot of LPS like low to moderate light. Placing them high in the tank upsets them.

sponger0 · 06/21/2012, 12:54 PM

Sk8r is right about alk and mag. But its generally a good rule to check that.

Also whenever you get a new coral, its best to place it on the bottom to acclimate it to light and water conditions. So put it in the sand and give it some time.

But most LPS dont need much light at all IME or flow for that matter

Randy Holmes-Farley · 06/21/2012, 01:16 PM

FWIW, my frogspawn do not like the brightest lit parts of my tank, and can be killed in the very brightest light I have. They expand more and more poorly in brighter light until one can barely see any polyps.

That said, my lights may be a lot brighter than yours, using 250 w DE 10,000k metal halides.

cap11885 · 06/21/2012, 09:28 PM

wow. ok i only have 2, 4 bulb t-5's tho. i have 2 256W setups. with 2 white and 2 actinic. see attached pic. i was under the impression that was low lighting. aprox 4W per gallon. i do have alot of flow tho. i will turn down my pumps a bit. the heads do seam to be getting tossed around a bit. do you think its too bright tho? if the heads seperate i should save them and they may grow new base's?

coralreefnc · 06/21/2012, 09:37 PM

i think frogspawn need to acclimated(lighting) i start mine on sand and about 3 months in middle and i am using 250W Halide.

cap11885 · 06/21/2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coralreefnc

i think frogspawn need to acclimated(lighting) i start with sand, no it is middle 250W Halide

what? you have 250W halides? i have T-5's

coralreefnc · 06/21/2012, 10:02 PM

sorry fixed it, watching the Miami Heat Championship!!

sponger0 · 06/23/2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cap11885

wow. ok i only have 2, 4 bulb t-5's tho.

Up high...thats too much light with LPS. Thats enough light for SPS. Just put it on the sandbed for awhile...at least a week.

06/21/2012, 10:42 AM	#1
cap11885 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 278	new frogspawn lps questions so im trying my hand with an lps. i purchased a 5 head and brought it home its been two days and one of the heads dosent look so well now. i placed it high and over 6 inches from anything else. under good t-5 lighting. i have turbulent water flow with 4 controlable pumps running in cycles. how long should it take for it to open? it apears partly open. i read it likes high flow? i keep mostly softies and have always been sucessful with them. __________________ 250dd, icecap 48xl sump, skimmer, 4 koralia pumps w/controller, 2x hydra 52HD, Apex controller. Oldest fish 14 years. Current Tank Info: 250 mixed

06/21/2012, 11:52 AM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	What's your alkalinity and calcium and magnesium levels? my sig line has good readings for them. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

06/21/2012, 12:05 PM	#4
fishgate Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 3,340	Mine did very well for the first week or so. Then started to get worse and worse. 2 heads popped out. One head was pretty much always happy and still is. So now I have the two popped heads in a glass in the tank, hoping one day they will grow rock again. I changed the lighting schedule from 13 hours to 6 and it is overall much happier. I put it right about mid-way in the tank. Mine seems to like moderate to low flow. __________________ 125RR in-wall, 40B Sump, CS180 BM Skimmer, ATI 4x80 watt, eheim 1262, custom wrap around rock wall, ReefKeeper Elite 120g in-wall, 40B Sump, PC 54wx4, Jabao DC-6000 (full siphon), future seahorse t Current Tank Info: 125g, 120g, 2x40b sumps, ATI 4x80 T5HO

06/21/2012, 12:25 PM	#5
TjwBlake Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kitchener, ON. Canada Posts: 404	they need gental flow, just enough to make them sway a little bit in the current __________________ Current tank: JbJ Nanocube 28. 1 Falco Hawk, zoas, cabbage leather, trumpet coral, GSP, mushrooms, CUC Current Tank Info: JbJ Nanocube 28

06/21/2012, 12:50 PM	#6
dannyp02908 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 190	Exactly as others have stated. Turbulent flow isnt very nice for LPS. They just need a gentle indirect flow. Also, alot of LPS like low to moderate light. Placing them high in the tank upsets them. __________________ Dan 110 Gallon Aquarium Numerous corals and some fish Current Tank Info: 110 SW various corals and a few fish.

06/21/2012, 11:34 AM	#2
reefnewbie83177 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 200	In my experience (which isn't much) frogspawn actually like to be placed lower in the tank. I have mine on the bottom, with indirect moderate flow. You don't want it's polyps moving chaotically. Just a gentle back and forth. Also, it may need to just adjust to your system. When I moved my down to the bottom it was closed up and didn't look great for several days. Then he perked right back up. LPS don't need nearly the light that SPS need so no need to have him up near the surface. good luck

06/21/2012, 12:54 PM	#7
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	Sk8r is right about alk and mag. But its generally a good rule to check that. Also whenever you get a new coral, its best to place it on the bottom to acclimate it to light and water conditions. So put it in the sand and give it some time. But most LPS dont need much light at all IME or flow for that matter

06/21/2012, 01:16 PM	#8
Randy Holmes-Farley Reef Chemist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arlington, Massachusetts Posts: 86,233	FWIW, my frogspawn do not like the brightest lit parts of my tank, and can be killed in the very brightest light I have. They expand more and more poorly in brighter light until one can barely see any polyps. That said, my lights may be a lot brighter than yours, using 250 w DE 10,000k metal halides. __________________ Randy Holmes-Farley Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef

06/21/2012, 09:28 PM	#9
cap11885 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 278	wow. ok i only have 2, 4 bulb t-5's tho. i have 2 256W setups. with 2 white and 2 actinic. see attached pic. i was under the impression that was low lighting. aprox 4W per gallon. i do have alot of flow tho. i will turn down my pumps a bit. the heads do seam to be getting tossed around a bit. do you think its too bright tho? if the heads seperate i should save them and they may grow new base's? __________________ 250dd, icecap 48xl sump, skimmer, 4 koralia pumps w/controller, 2x hydra 52HD, Apex controller. Oldest fish 14 years. Current Tank Info: 250 mixed

06/21/2012, 09:37 PM	#10
coralreefnc Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC Posts: 104	i think frogspawn need to acclimated(lighting) i start mine on sand and about 3 months in middle and i am using 250W Halide. Last edited by coralreefnc; 06/21/2012 at 10:00 PM.

06/21/2012, 10:02 PM	#12
coralreefnc Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC Posts: 104	sorry fixed it, watching the Miami Heat Championship!!