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Unread 08/07/2012, 08:47 PM   #1
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QT Question....

How often should I change the water in the QT? I have to clown fish in there and I used 50% DT water and 50% new saltwater and the tank is a 10g tank with a HOB Penguin 350


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Current Tank Info: 75G and 20G Sump/Fuge with Aquac 120 skimmer (Mag 5), LR,LS and chaeto in the Fuge, Mag 9.5 Return Pump, 100Lbs of rock in DT and 60 Lbs of LS.
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Water Parameters are as fallow: (just did them with ATI Saltwater Master Test Kit)

PH: 8.0
Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5

I'm not using any medicine or anything but I do have Prime that I bought last weekend but have never used it...

Please I need advice and I also have a batch of fresh new saltwater just in case I need to make a WC right now...


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Current Tank Info: 75G and 20G Sump/Fuge with Aquac 120 skimmer (Mag 5), LR,LS and chaeto in the Fuge, Mag 9.5 Return Pump, 100Lbs of rock in DT and 60 Lbs of LS.
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Unread 08/07/2012, 08:53 PM   #3
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Whenever you detect ammonia, change the water. This may be once a day for a few weeks if it is not cycled. I use a seachem ammonia alert badge. If you have a sponge from the DT, put that in the QT to insta cycle the tank.

Nitrates and nitrites do not matter in QT unless keeping corals. In my QT's that have been cycled, I'll do a 20% WC maybe twice during the 8-10 week QT regimen. Of course, they have been long cycled.


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Unread 08/07/2012, 09:00 PM   #4
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Water Parameters are as fallow: (just did them with ATI Saltwater Master Test Kit)

PH: 8.0
Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5

I'm not using any medicine or anything but I do have Prime that I bought last weekend but have never used it...

Please I need advice and I also have a batch of fresh new saltwater just in case I need to make a WC right now...
I saw this after my first post. .25 ppm means it's time for a WC. One quick caution I should mention with Prime. DO NOT use prime with copper as it binds to the copper and makes it very toxic. Without copper, however, it will help convert the toxic ammonia to a non toxic type.

For a quick reference, the seachem ammonia alert badge I have says
0 ammonia = safe
0.05 ammonia = alert
0.2 ammonia = Alarm
0.5 ammonia = Toxic


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Unread 08/07/2012, 09:07 PM   #5
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ok I guess I will do the WC... If i decide to use the prime after the WC when can I use copper?? I havent detected any ich but I will probably treat anyways to be sure...


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Unread 08/07/2012, 09:26 PM   #6
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Using Prime is a great idea to help with the ammonia during the cycle in a QT. With the tank not being cycled and using Prime, I personally wouldn't chance it with copper at all and would opt to using hypo in a non cycled tank or tank transfer (you don't need a cycled tank with this as you do a 100% WC every 3 days in the AM. I have even heard of people using 5 gallon buckets with a bubbler and heater with this method.).
FWIW, ich will take a long time to kill the fish, but ammonia or copper + Prime can kill them in a day.

If you do choose hypo, make sure you have a calibrated refractometer and keep the salinity at 1.008-1.009 and never let it go above 1.010, otherwise the treatment is useless. You should use hypo for 4 weeks and slowly lower the salinity over the course a few days (since you do not see any signs of ich, I would slowly lower it over a week or so). When you are done with hypo after 4 weeks, slowly raise it back up over the course of another week and make sure to keep the water well oxygenated/circulated.

A thorough QT regiment is 6-10 weeks.


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