Dart / Seaswirl question

justiceprevails · 08/15/2012, 07:15 PM

I'm in the early planning stages for my 300 DD I have sitting in the carport. I have a Reeflo Dart pump and two 3/4" Sea swirls. 5 - 6 ft of vertical Head pressure and I plan on keeping the pump output at the 1.5" size up to the tank rim with no 90 deg elbows. Now for the question. Will I have enough pressure or flow to split off any of the output to any additional returns? Or will the pump only be able to support the 2 - 3/4" sea swirls? I also have an Oceans Motions 4 way (I think it is a 3/4 or 1" output. But I have a feeling I would need another pump to feed it. I'm not wanting to run that much "pump". I would rather supplement with internal wave makers like my 2 Korillia Evolution 1400s on a wave maker. Or my assorted older Korillia 4s. I know they aren't Tunze but they are out of my budgets range.

justiceprevails · 08/18/2012, 03:05 PM

bump

bskiba · 08/18/2012, 04:07 PM

http://reefcentral.com/index.php/head-loss-calculator

you could get an idea from this

pciscott · 08/18/2012, 04:24 PM

In my experience the Dart would be way too much flow for two 3/4 inch Sea Swirls, I think you could add 2 more outlets and use ball valves to adjust your flow. You need a good size drain and oveflow box to handle a Dart not turned back as they flow a bunch.

reefrubble · 08/18/2012, 06:09 PM

Shoot Emster a PM , he knows a lot about SeaSwirls . He has been running them for many years . I think he has 4 of them on the back of his 180 . I have two one inch ones , on my 300 DD . I also have two Tunze 6105s in the same tank . The new SeaSwirls can handle a lot more flow .

justiceprevails · 08/19/2012, 06:43 PM

I'm really glad to hear I would have extra flow - I guess I will be able to put the OM OR my "ghetto" sprinkler swirlers to work with the same pump - great news.

justiceprevails · 08/19/2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bskiba

http://reefcentral.com/index.php/head-loss-calculator

you could get an idea from this

I don't see the Reeflo Dart as a choice in the calculator? I know it is the same a a sequence but which one?

08/15/2012, 07:15 PM	#1
justiceprevails Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: S. Tampa Posts: 540	Dart / Seaswirl question I'm in the early planning stages for my 300 DD I have sitting in the carport. I have a Reeflo Dart pump and two 3/4" Sea swirls. 5 - 6 ft of vertical Head pressure and I plan on keeping the pump output at the 1.5" size up to the tank rim with no 90 deg elbows. Now for the question. Will I have enough pressure or flow to split off any of the output to any additional returns? Or will the pump only be able to support the 2 - 3/4" sea swirls? I also have an Oceans Motions 4 way (I think it is a 3/4 or 1" output. But I have a feeling I would need another pump to feed it. I'm not wanting to run that much "pump". I would rather supplement with internal wave makers like my 2 Korillia Evolution 1400s on a wave maker. Or my assorted older Korillia 4s. I know they aren't Tunze but they are out of my budgets range. __________________ There are 10 types of people in this world - Those that understand binary and those that don't. Current Tank Info: 60 gal rimless reef containing TBD. 75 & 90 G fresh/Planted.

08/18/2012, 03:05 PM	#2
justiceprevails Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: S. Tampa Posts: 540	any opinions? bump __________________ There are 10 types of people in this world - Those that understand binary and those that don't. Current Tank Info: 60 gal rimless reef containing TBD. 75 & 90 G fresh/Planted.

08/18/2012, 04:07 PM	#3
bskiba Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La Mesa Posts: 794	http://reefcentral.com/index.php/head-loss-calculator you could get an idea from this __________________ AKA: BRADREEF Current Tank Info: Started new cube 05-2012

08/18/2012, 04:24 PM	#4
pciscott Pirates Cove Reef Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 2,582	In my experience the Dart would be way too much flow for two 3/4 inch Sea Swirls, I think you could add 2 more outlets and use ball valves to adjust your flow. You need a good size drain and oveflow box to handle a Dart not turned back as they flow a bunch. __________________ Scott Steinberger SCMAS/SCRK/MASNA member There is more than One Way to skin a Reef! Current Tank Info: Pirates Cove 400 Gallon Peninsula with 10 Ecotech Gen 4 Pro Lights, SPS heavy mixed Reef, Tank Controlled by Apex back up monitoring by Profilux, Tropic Marin Pro Salt, Brightwell Suplements and Bio Bricks, Way too many Fish! Keep it simple!

08/18/2012, 06:09 PM	#5
reefrubble Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fort Myers , Fl. Posts: 5,718	Shoot Emster a PM , he knows a lot about SeaSwirls . He has been running them for many years . I think he has 4 of them on the back of his 180 . I have two one inch ones , on my 300 DD . I also have two Tunze 6105s in the same tank . The new SeaSwirls can handle a lot more flow . __________________ Ted Proud member of SHARK (Spring Hill Area Reef Keepers ) Proud member of TBRC (Tampa Bay Reef Club ) Save the reefs , Grow your own Current Tank Info: Marineland 300 DD Tank Custom metal stand , and canopy DIY LED lighting I-Tech Super Beast skimmer . I do not have a tank at this time . I sold the 300 Gal. system

08/19/2012, 06:43 PM	#6
justiceprevails Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: S. Tampa Posts: 540	I'm really glad to hear I would have extra flow - I guess I will be able to put the OM OR my "ghetto" sprinkler swirlers to work with the same pump - great news. __________________ There are 10 types of people in this world - Those that understand binary and those that don't. Current Tank Info: 60 gal rimless reef containing TBD. 75 & 90 G fresh/Planted.