trying to justify cost for MP10

[StaghornE]

I love my mp10. Mainly because of the foot print. If they made another pump like this without the controller for less $, I would buy 3 today, you couldn't keep them on the shelves.

[TheGodParticle]

Originally Posted by jacob.morgan78

Is there a cheaper alternative to still get the controllabe flow? I'm looking to add something like this to a 20 gallon tall but can't afford the vortech.

Which one is it? You can't afford it or you can. You've contradicted yourself multiple times in your posts. My guess is its that latter of the two and you can't afford it. Lots of people cant, its okay, but don't sit there and say they are overpriced which is why you won't buy one when you clearly said earlier that you couldn't afford one.

[jacob.morgan78]

I should have said that I didn't want to spend the money. My bad. If they didn't have a patent on it, and had competition, would they still be so expensive? It's overpriced IMO.

[swcc]

Originally Posted by jacob.morgan78

I should have said that I didn't want to spend the money. My bad. If they didn't have a patent on it, and had competition, would they still be so expensive? It's overpriced IMO.

It cost's more to manufacture in the US or Europe...chalk it up to a manufacturer not supporting slave labor wages and a disgusting industry...

If your unwilling to support a company that 'does better for the country it resides in' that is your beef. If you cannot afford one, so be it and that in no way makes it "over priced"...It is simply over budget for your financial situation.... You would perhaps argue that my Tag Heuer watch is overpriced as well... after all one can tell time with a timex. One could also actually point out that support of a 'made in china' industry is in fact the very reason it may be over budget for you(global economics).

[TheGodParticle]

Apple has Patents on their iPads, they have PLENTY of competition but they still sell more Tablets than any of their competitors. There's a reason they do its because they're the best. I don't disagree that they are pricey for something so simple however, I think even if there was a large market the price on Vortechs would remain the same and they would continue to sell. I may even argue that they could raise the price and still sell just as many.

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by jacob.morgan78

I should have said that I didn't want to spend the money. My bad. If they didn't have a patent on it, and had competition, would they still be so expensive? It's overpriced IMO.

lol well its ure opinioin, based on nothing much ...cause I showed u that the competition is more expensive, and you decided to ignore it.

I still dont get what u base your posts on .... just gut feeling ? lol

lol this is just funny .... calling something too expensive whent he compatitor costs more .... LOL hahaah

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by TheGodParticle

Apple has Patents on their iPads, they have PLENTY of competition but they still sell more Tablets than any of their competitors. There's a reason they do its because they're the best. I don't disagree that they are pricey for something so simple however, I think even if there was a large market the price on Vortechs would remain the same and they would continue to sell. I may even argue that they could raise the price and still sell just as many.

I disagree

tunze, with no dry side, and no controller, costs more.

[Mavrk]

Just as an update, I got another MP10 and it is pretty much silent. Even at 100% I cannot hear it unless I am close. My old one whines. I don't know if they have updated their drysides or if mine was just defective and didn't know it. I have sent an e-mail to customer support and will see what they say.

[jacob.morgan78]

Originally Posted by swcc

It cost's more to manufacture in the US or Europe...chalk it up to a manufacturer not supporting slave labor wages and a disgusting industry...

Good point. Hadn't thought about that. However, you don't need to go on the attack against me... It's just an opinion.

Originally Posted by Allmost

lol well its ure opinioin, based on nothing much ...cause I showed u that the competition is more expensive, and you decided to ignore it.

I still dont get what u base your posts on .... just gut feeling ? lol

lol this is just funny .... calling something too expensive whent he compatitor costs more .... LOL hahaah

You're right, it isn't based on much. That's why it's just my opinion and I'm not saying it's fact. And again, people going on the attack just because I don't agree with the price of an item. I don't understand. They are great pumps. I've said that already. I'm not putting you down for buying them. It's your money.

[a.browning]

The Vortechs are definately worth it. I have 2 MP40s on my 75 gallon SPS reef. I used to run Koralias but would never go near those pumps again. It's one of those things where you don't know what you're missing till you get one.

[Allmost]

Originally Posted by jacob.morgan78

You're right, it isn't based on much. That's why it's just my opinion and I'm not saying it's fact. And again, people going on the attack just because I don't agree with the price of an item. I don't understand. They are great pumps. I've said that already. I'm not putting you down for buying them. It's your money.

I agree Jacob, no point attacking someones opinion. I dont think that was the intention neither

we are all in an expensive hobby ... almost everything is overpriced when I tell ppl how much I have spent on my reef they look at me and say "that much on a fish bowl ? " lol but within this expensive hobby ... I dont think the Vortech pumps are priced that bad, if you are shopping for top notch equipments, then Vortech is fair. but of course, there is the cheaper market with korallia and Maxijets too I personally dont think the 2 classes can be compared, just like coralife skimmers and vertex skimmers, u know ? I am sure we have all owned a Coralife supper skimmer at one point

[swcc]

Originally Posted by jacob.morgan78

Good point. Hadn't thought about that. However, you don't need to go on the attack against me... It's just an opinion.

not meant to attack you per say...but the reality is America today, and it's views, are really screwing up our countries economic state. There is good reason why our country has gone from first world innovator to barely clinging onto not becoming a 3rd world country...

[CliftonArbogast]

You know you want one or you would not have started the thread, now you just have to go Buy one and stop eating for a while. I dont understand the big deal!

But seriously, you know you want one.

[jacob.morgan78]

Good points all around :-)