Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > New to the Hobby
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 01/06/2013, 03:15 PM   #1
AT_Hiker
Registered Member
 
AT_Hiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clayton, NC
Posts: 176
Salifert NH4 Test not reading high levels

So for the last 11 days I've been going through the process of doing a fishless cycle of my quarantine tank using Dr. Tim's One and Only Nitrifying Bacteria (NB) and Ammonium Chloride (AC), which was also purchased from Dr. Tim's. You are supposed to add the NB, and then bring AC up to 3 ppm. Anytime Ammonia or Nitrites are low you are supposed to add more AC to bring it up to 3 ppm. I have a 20 gal. QT, and the bottle of AC says that 1 ml of AC = 2 ppm in a 20 gal tank.

First day I added 1 ml of AC. NH4 was zero the next day, so I added 1.5 ml. By the 3rd day I was reading ~ 1.3 ppm on my NH4 test. Because the instructions say to bring AC to 3 ppm everday I've been adding at least 1 ml of AC to try to get it there, but my Salifert NH4 test never reads anything above ~1.3 ppm.

Now I'm starting to think that the Salifert test is just topping out at 1.3, but the color comparison card leads me to believe that it can read up to 2 ppm. Yesterday I didn't add any AC...and the NH4 reading today was 1.3

As of day 11 of my cycle, which seems like a long time when using Nitrifying Bacteria. NH4 is ~1.3 ppm, NO2 is 1 ppm, N03 is 50 ppm, and PH is ~8.2.

Is there something wrong with my NH4 test kit, or am I doing something wrong?

Here is a pic of the NH4 test result which is the same everyday:


Here is how I dosed Ammonium Chloride everday, and the daily test readings. Note: I don't test for N03 or PH everyday:
Day 1: NH4 0, N02 0.01, N03 .5 PH 8.2 - Dosed 1 ml AC
Day 2: NH4 0, N02 0, N03 .7 PH 8.2 - Dosed 1.5 ml AC
Day 3: NH4 1.3 , N02 0 - Dosed .5 ml AC
Day 4: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.01 - Dosed 1 ml AC
Day 5: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.01, N03 7 - Dosed .5 ml AC
Day 6: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.15 - Dosed 1 ml AC
Day 7: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.20 - Dosed 1 ml AC
Day 8: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.50 - Dosed 1 ml AC
Day 9: NH4 1.3 , N02 0.50 - Dosed 2 ml AC
Day 10: NH4 1.3 , N02 1, N03 50, PH 8,2 - Did not dose AC
Day 11: NH4 1.3 , N02 1 - Did not dose AC (TODAY)

Should I be doing something different?


AT_Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/06/2013, 03:59 PM   #2
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,751
Blog Entries: 15
judging from the color of water and the chart it looks like under 1.0 the pic cuts off but i am assuming its 0.5.


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/06/2013, 04:22 PM   #3
AT_Hiker
Registered Member
 
AT_Hiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clayton, NC
Posts: 176
Here is a image that shows the lower portion of the color comparision card.
Unless I've suddenly gone color blind I think the color of the vial is much too orange to be less than 1. The lower readings are more yellow.




AT_Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/06/2013, 05:09 PM   #4
bnumair
Dr. Reef at ur service
 
bnumair's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA
Posts: 7,751
Blog Entries: 15
again judging from the pic it looks dark. ur suppose to have light source on ur back with ur shadow on the vial. then place the vial right next to the chart and compare.


__________________
Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300

"Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16

Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE
bnumair is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01/06/2013, 05:32 PM   #5
AT_Hiker
Registered Member
 
AT_Hiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Clayton, NC
Posts: 176
I always read my sample under bright light. Just have to move to a different location so my wife could hold the vial while I took the picture. The color looks the same as the picture under bright light. Under the brightest of light the sample is a peach color with no hints of yellow.


AT_Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.