help!!!! ASAP

david0485 · 01/14/2013, 12:35 PM

ok need help ASAP.....my 20 gallon tank shattered yesterday due to moving it down a little on the dresser a piece of live rock fell into the glass and boom.... apparently it was tempered glass bc it just shattered and didn't even crack first... i have went and got a new 29 g to replace the broken one, i can use the same rock and sand and equipment, i was able to save about 10 gallons of my saltwater. my 3 fish and 2 shrimp are in a 5 gallon bucket with a aq hob 50 filter......however i had to buy another bad of sand, and i have mix about 19gallons to fill up the 29g with saltwater so i can get my fish into the new tank i know im supposed to let it cycle bc its new but im using established lr and sand is it ok to put the fish into the tank after 24 hours of mixing the salt mix? i dont know what other options that i have right now any help or suggestions would much appreciated....

Mikelush78 · 01/14/2013, 12:40 PM

You should be fine in my option since you are using the same sand and LR, that is the important stuff... Its really like you just did a bigger water change... I would put everything in the new tank... just me

gone fishin · 01/14/2013, 12:46 PM

Wow sorry to hear. I would go ahead and set it up. you may get a mini cycle. I would keep an eye out for ammonia and have some extra water on hand just in case. Good luck.

david0485 · 01/14/2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikelush78

You should be fine in my option since you are using the same sand and LR, that is the important stuff... Its really like you just did a bigger water change... I would put everything in the new tank... just me

thats what i was thinking but i wanted a second opinion since i have only been into saltwater setups for about 4 months....thanks for the input

david0485 · 01/14/2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gone fishin

Wow sorry to hear. I would go ahead and set it up. you may get a mini cycle. I would keep an eye out for ammonia and have some extra water on hand just in case. Good luck.

well ill have to get some more water and some salt crystals on standbye just for that purpouse, but yes it was very disheartening when it happened.

bnumair · 01/14/2013, 01:00 PM

if the rock and sand from old setup remains under/submerged saltwater and temp controlled within 74-84F with a powerhead then transfer to new tank then u will not see a mini cycle.
but if those conditions are not met then there are chances of die off and a mini cycle. keep rock submerged and only air contact it needs is while transferring it to new tank with least possible time out of water.

am944 · 01/14/2013, 03:20 PM

What type of livestock do you have (I saw the 3 fish and 2 shrimp)? The hardier they are, the more likely they will survive. I wouldn't get my hopes up though. When you transfer your sand and rocks a lot of detritus and other undesirable minerals/chemicals that have settled (or grown under the sand) will rise up. This is part of the "cycling" though and in the long term you will be fine. Time to upgrade to a larger tank!

greech · 01/14/2013, 04:14 PM

I wouldn't use the old sand.

Obviously make sure temp and SG match for the new water.

Whichever way you go, go ahead and start mixing water so you have it ready in case you get spikes. U would also have some Prime on hand in case of ammonia.

I had a tank crack on me and I moved everything into a new, slightly larger tank the same day with no losses. The only thing I didn't move over was the old sand.

david0485 · 01/15/2013, 05:06 AM

i have an azure damsel, purple pseudo., and yellow clown golby with 2 pepermint shrimp and some small crabs and some snails, all which are in the new tank swimming around doing fine, so far no spikes in ammonia, and i have about 5 gallons mixed on standbye....

greech · 01/15/2013, 09:47 AM

Sounds like things are going well. Certainly better than they were! Glad you were able to save the tank. You have some more durable fish. The shrimp would be more likely to show signs if something starts to go wrong. Keep monitoring your parameters but I think you will be fine. Good luck.

david0485 · 01/16/2013, 07:33 AM

thanks everyone for the input it looks like things will bo ok, and now that i have upgraded to a 29 from a 20 gal. i think im going to add 5 more pounds of rock and maybe another fish.

01/14/2013, 12:35 PM	#1
david0485 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: englewood ohio Posts: 32	help!!!! ASAP ok need help ASAP.....my 20 gallon tank shattered yesterday due to moving it down a little on the dresser a piece of live rock fell into the glass and boom.... apparently it was tempered glass bc it just shattered and didn't even crack first... i have went and got a new 29 g to replace the broken one, i can use the same rock and sand and equipment, i was able to save about 10 gallons of my saltwater. my 3 fish and 2 shrimp are in a 5 gallon bucket with a aq hob 50 filter......however i had to buy another bad of sand, and i have mix about 19gallons to fill up the 29g with saltwater so i can get my fish into the new tank i know im supposed to let it cycle bc its new but im using established lr and sand is it ok to put the fish into the tank after 24 hours of mixing the salt mix? i dont know what other options that i have right now any help or suggestions would much appreciated....

01/14/2013, 12:46 PM	#3
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Wow sorry to hear. I would go ahead and set it up. you may get a mini cycle. I would keep an eye out for ammonia and have some extra water on hand just in case. Good luck. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

01/14/2013, 01:00 PM	#6
bnumair Dr. Reef at ur service Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tulsa, Ok, USA Posts: 7,751 Blog Entries: 15	if the rock and sand from old setup remains under/submerged saltwater and temp controlled within 74-84F with a powerhead then transfer to new tank then u will not see a mini cycle. but if those conditions are not met then there are chances of die off and a mini cycle. keep rock submerged and only air contact it needs is while transferring it to new tank with least possible time out of water. __________________ Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE

01/14/2013, 04:14 PM	#8
greech Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 3,133	I wouldn't use the old sand. Obviously make sure temp and SG match for the new water. Whichever way you go, go ahead and start mixing water so you have it ready in case you get spikes. U would also have some Prime on hand in case of ammonia. I had a tank crack on me and I moved everything into a new, slightly larger tank the same day with no losses. The only thing I didn't move over was the old sand. __________________ ~Graham Current Tank Info: Tank: 40 breeder; 20H sump w/SWC 120; Sicce 3.0 return; Vortech MP-10; Sundial T5, DIY Actinic LED (3W Cree). Livestock: Pair of Black & Whites; Midas Blenny; Firefish; Yasha/pistol; Black Leopard Wrasse; LPS and SPS

01/15/2013, 09:47 AM	#10
greech Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 3,133	Sounds like things are going well. Certainly better than they were! Glad you were able to save the tank. You have some more durable fish. The shrimp would be more likely to show signs if something starts to go wrong. Keep monitoring your parameters but I think you will be fine. Good luck. __________________ ~Graham Current Tank Info: Tank: 40 breeder; 20H sump w/SWC 120; Sicce 3.0 return; Vortech MP-10; Sundial T5, DIY Actinic LED (3W Cree). Livestock: Pair of Black & Whites; Midas Blenny; Firefish; Yasha/pistol; Black Leopard Wrasse; LPS and SPS

01/14/2013, 12:40 PM	#2
Mikelush78 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 158	You should be fine in my option since you are using the same sand and LR, that is the important stuff... Its really like you just did a bigger water change... I would put everything in the new tank... just me

01/14/2013, 03:20 PM	#7
am944 Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 65	What type of livestock do you have (I saw the 3 fish and 2 shrimp)? The hardier they are, the more likely they will survive. I wouldn't get my hopes up though. When you transfer your sand and rocks a lot of detritus and other undesirable minerals/chemicals that have settled (or grown under the sand) will rise up. This is part of the "cycling" though and in the long term you will be fine. Time to upgrade to a larger tank!

01/15/2013, 05:06 AM	#9
david0485 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: englewood ohio Posts: 32	i have an azure damsel, purple pseudo., and yellow clown golby with 2 pepermint shrimp and some small crabs and some snails, all which are in the new tank swimming around doing fine, so far no spikes in ammonia, and i have about 5 gallons mixed on standbye....

01/16/2013, 07:33 AM	#11
david0485 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: englewood ohio Posts: 32	thanks everyone for the input it looks like things will bo ok, and now that i have upgraded to a 29 from a 20 gal. i think im going to add 5 more pounds of rock and maybe another fish.