!!HELP!! sick fish!

kati_unu · 05/12/2013, 01:24 PM

Hi! I'd greatly appreciate any help!

I have a 6 gal (i know that's not an optimal size) SW tank with 2 Ocellaris Clown fish, a Peppermint Shrimp, and some Live Rock. My tank has been successful since July of 2011. I've noticed last night that the smaller clown of the two wasn't eating, and I figured that I'd check up on it in the morning, just to find out that it's oddly behaving. It's rapidly breathing, swimming vertically in one spot at a time (trying to swim very minimally), and it's swimming in very odd patterns (thrusting, shaking, running into things, floating around).

A while back I noticed what I believed to be Ich and I tried treating it but it apparently didn't work (some other disease?). Now, though, it's white stripe on the tail is a bruise color, and there's a partial strip on it's middle stripe that seems "bruised" a well (is it spreading?). I tried to research, but I couldn't find anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Deinonych · 05/12/2013, 04:29 PM

Post a picture if you can. It will probably help with diagnosis.

kati_unu · 05/12/2013, 05:04 PM

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Deinonych · 05/12/2013, 07:41 PM

Looks like some sort of bacterial infection. Others more knowledgeable here can confirm.

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kati_unu · 05/12/2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deinonych

Looks like some sort of bacterial infection. Others more knowledgeable here can confirm.

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Would a bacterial infection explain its odd behavior? And can it spread? How can I properly diagnose and treat it?

Sk8r · 05/12/2013, 11:03 PM

likely brook, a clown disease. GO to the fish disease forum and read the stickies; also google brooklynella.

kati_unu · 05/15/2013, 07:38 PM

I just lost my clown today, what should I do now? My other clown shows no sign of any sickness; i don't want to treat it with meds if it doesn't have anything, but i also don't want any diseases to show up again.

kati_unu · 05/15/2013, 09:14 PM

im not positive what he had, some sort of bacterial infection, but i noticed abdominal swelling and possibly popeye as well. he also swam around less and less over the hours. assuming it was either brooklynella or marine velvet, it was a rapid killer- i noticed its odd behavior and discoloration 4 days ago, and i caught on near the end stages of this disease.

my female clown that's left has what seems to be damage from possibly hitting/scraping against something in the tank on her head (like scales came off or something) this couldnt possibly be a sign of any kind of sickness?

Sk8r · 05/15/2013, 09:17 PM

I'd say withdraw her to qt and treat for bacterial infection---if she's lost scales. This is not parasitic, I think. Were these tank-bred or wild caught?

kati_unu · 05/15/2013, 09:46 PM

I believe they were tank-bred.

What kind of bacterial medication would you suggest? Or maybe a general medicine that helps boost immunity to disease?

reef4life07 · 05/15/2013, 10:07 PM

Start using Selcon, it will help keep you fish healthy. Also make sure the water temp doesn't rise to high, that will increase their illness.

kati_unu · 05/15/2013, 10:49 PM

ill be sure to start using selcon. what about treating her in the QT?

reef4life07 · 05/16/2013, 09:48 AM

If u don't see any signs of illness, and your fish is acting normal then let it be. Feed it at least twice a day with Selcon. My flame angel had ich, then Popeye, I increase the feeding to 3 times a day, and now he's back to normal.

05/12/2013, 01:24 PM	#1
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	!!HELP!! sick fish! Hi! I'd greatly appreciate any help! I have a 6 gal (i know that's not an optimal size) SW tank with 2 Ocellaris Clown fish, a Peppermint Shrimp, and some Live Rock. My tank has been successful since July of 2011. I've noticed last night that the smaller clown of the two wasn't eating, and I figured that I'd check up on it in the morning, just to find out that it's oddly behaving. It's rapidly breathing, swimming vertically in one spot at a time (trying to swim very minimally), and it's swimming in very odd patterns (thrusting, shaking, running into things, floating around). A while back I noticed what I believed to be Ich and I tried treating it but it apparently didn't work (some other disease?). Now, though, it's white stripe on the tail is a bruise color, and there's a partial strip on it's middle stripe that seems "bruised" a well (is it spreading?). I tried to research, but I couldn't find anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

05/12/2013, 04:29 PM	#2
Deinonych Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,191	Post a picture if you can. It will probably help with diagnosis. __________________ Chris Hope is not a strategy. Display Tank: DSA 105 w/36gal sump/fuge · 2x MP40wES PHs · 2x Radion Gen2 · Apex w/PM2 · Fish · Corals · Rock · Sand · Water

05/12/2013, 07:41 PM	#4
Deinonych Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,191	Looks like some sort of bacterial infection. Others more knowledgeable here can confirm. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________ Chris Hope is not a strategy. Display Tank: DSA 105 w/36gal sump/fuge · 2x MP40wES PHs · 2x Radion Gen2 · Apex w/PM2 · Fish · Corals · Rock · Sand · Water

05/12/2013, 11:03 PM	#6
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	likely brook, a clown disease. GO to the fish disease forum and read the stickies; also google brooklynella. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

05/15/2013, 09:17 PM	#9
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I'd say withdraw her to qt and treat for bacterial infection---if she's lost scales. This is not parasitic, I think. Were these tank-bred or wild caught? __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

05/12/2013, 05:04 PM	#3
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	photo 1 (1).jpg photo 2 (3).jpg

05/15/2013, 07:38 PM	#7
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	I just lost my clown today, what should I do now? My other clown shows no sign of any sickness; i don't want to treat it with meds if it doesn't have anything, but i also don't want any diseases to show up again.

05/15/2013, 09:14 PM	#8
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	im not positive what he had, some sort of bacterial infection, but i noticed abdominal swelling and possibly popeye as well. he also swam around less and less over the hours. assuming it was either brooklynella or marine velvet, it was a rapid killer- i noticed its odd behavior and discoloration 4 days ago, and i caught on near the end stages of this disease. my female clown that's left has what seems to be damage from possibly hitting/scraping against something in the tank on her head (like scales came off or something) this couldnt possibly be a sign of any kind of sickness?

05/15/2013, 09:46 PM	#10
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	I believe they were tank-bred. What kind of bacterial medication would you suggest? Or maybe a general medicine that helps boost immunity to disease?

05/15/2013, 10:07 PM	#11
reef4life07 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 480	Start using Selcon, it will help keep you fish healthy. Also make sure the water temp doesn't rise to high, that will increase their illness.

05/15/2013, 10:49 PM	#12
kati_unu Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7	ill be sure to start using selcon. what about treating her in the QT?

05/16/2013, 09:48 AM	#13
reef4life07 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 480	If u don't see any signs of illness, and your fish is acting normal then let it be. Feed it at least twice a day with Selcon. My flame angel had ich, then Popeye, I increase the feeding to 3 times a day, and now he's back to normal.