Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 06/30/2013, 07:43 PM   #1
Reefer94
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Memphis
Posts: 174
RLSS 6i Overkill on a 60g Cube?

I've always gone oversized. But a thread (Drae) the other day got me thinking... why do I keep doing this? Initially I did it for a few reasons. One, I went with cheap manufacturers who overly exaggerated their ratings and I stopped trusting them. Two, I always imagined upgrading to a bigger tank so wanted to save the trouble of buying a new one. Well, the first issue is basically null with the better manufacturers, and the second issue... I always buy new stuff for new tanks anyway so it's getting stupid.

Anyway, setting up a gorgeous 60g cube I had custom-made, 24x24x24 with external overflow. Using a standard 20g tank for the sump, so looking at about 65-75 gallons total water volume after accounting for rock and hardware.

So, in short, is the RLSS 6i too much? I'm in the $350 range, but the right skimmer is more important. Was also considering the Vertex Omega 150, but it has about the same rating. I'm having trouble finding a well-made, reliable skimmer for under 100g tanks. Open to suggestions.


__________________
15+ yrs experience, tanks all sizes. I like the small ones.

20g - 10g Sump, Vortech MP10wES, AquaC Urchin PRO, AI Vega
60g Cube in the works

Current Tank Info: 20g Nano, 10g Sump, AI SOL Blue LED

Last edited by Reefer94; 06/30/2013 at 08:05 PM.
Reefer94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:29 PM   #2
ReefRockerLive
GHL Mitras LX7 Club
 
ReefRockerLive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 2,454
Blog Entries: 1
I have the R6-i model on a 67g display, totaling about 75g including sump and after displacement. The skimmer has been performing above my expectations and I think the skimmer is perfect for tanks within the 60-90 gal range.


__________________
-ReefRockerLive

Current Tank Info: Rimless 67g | GHL Profilux 3.1T eX | 2x GHL Doser 2 dosers | 2xGHL Mitras LX7 LED | Abyzz a100 | Bubble King DC 150 | 2x Vortech MP40w QD | Fauna Marin Zeomatic 2.2ltr | Fauna Marin Zeolight System | Fauna Marin Balling Light Method
ReefRockerLive is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:47 PM   #3
Drae
RAIDER NATION!
 
Drae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: City of sin...
Posts: 3,476
I think you'll be alright like said above. If it were me I'd opt for a 5" diameter skimmer like the sea side aquatics cs 5.5 for optimum performance or the Aquamaxx em 100. But that's just my opinion. I really like the rlss r6 and I think it might be the one 6" diameter skimmer with a sweet spot as large as it has ( 70 to 130+ gallons).


Drae is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:47 PM   #4
Drae
RAIDER NATION!
 
Drae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: City of sin...
Posts: 3,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReefRockerLive View Post
I have the R6-i model on a 67g display, totaling about 75g including sump and after displacement. The skimmer has been performing above my expectations and I think the skimmer is perfect for tanks within the 60-90 gal range.
Do you run your skimmer in full blast?


Drae is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:53 PM   #5
Reefer94
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Memphis
Posts: 174
Thanks for the input so far. I'll do some homework on your other recommendation. RLSS seems to be one of the few that I've found very few (if any) bad reviews on.


__________________
15+ yrs experience, tanks all sizes. I like the small ones.

20g - 10g Sump, Vortech MP10wES, AquaC Urchin PRO, AI Vega
60g Cube in the works

Current Tank Info: 20g Nano, 10g Sump, AI SOL Blue LED
Reefer94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 09:07 PM   #6
TimeConsumer
Registered Member
 
TimeConsumer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Orleans, La
Posts: 1,919
All three skimmers mentioned are high quality, reliable units that should get the job done. The RLSS is a little large, but since it is adjustable that should allow you to dial it in to your bioload. But, if it were my tank I would go with the EM100 or the CS5.5 for the pricetag. And I'm also pretty sure nobody has the R6-I in stock right now.


__________________
Steve - Retired from reefing, for now.
TimeConsumer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 09:31 PM   #7
Reefer94
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Memphis
Posts: 174
Guess that brings it down to RLSS R6i, EM100, or CS5.5 - the RLSS would give me room for expansion but the other two might be more optimum for the current tank. Decisions, decisions. Not worried about the skimmer not being is stock, I'm in for a long build


__________________
15+ yrs experience, tanks all sizes. I like the small ones.

20g - 10g Sump, Vortech MP10wES, AquaC Urchin PRO, AI Vega
60g Cube in the works

Current Tank Info: 20g Nano, 10g Sump, AI SOL Blue LED
Reefer94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 10:13 PM   #8
ReefRockerLive
GHL Mitras LX7 Club
 
ReefRockerLive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 2,454
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drae View Post
Do you run your skimmer in full blast?
Not quite. I've been running it at about 80% and noticed that full blast produced watered down skimmate.


__________________
-ReefRockerLive

Current Tank Info: Rimless 67g | GHL Profilux 3.1T eX | 2x GHL Doser 2 dosers | 2xGHL Mitras LX7 LED | Abyzz a100 | Bubble King DC 150 | 2x Vortech MP40w QD | Fauna Marin Zeomatic 2.2ltr | Fauna Marin Zeolight System | Fauna Marin Balling Light Method
ReefRockerLive is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06/30/2013, 10:49 PM   #9
Drae
RAIDER NATION!
 
Drae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: City of sin...
Posts: 3,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReefRockerLive View Post
Not quite. I've been running it at about 80% and noticed that full blast produced watered down skimmate.
That's the beauty of the rlss r6 imo. It's got multiple sweet spots. I bet at 80% it's pulling about 600 lph of air.


Drae is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/01/2013, 09:05 AM   #10
Reefer94
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Memphis
Posts: 174
I can see the big difference in the two appears to be the pump and the overall air intake. EM100 looks to come with the Sicce 1.5 "silent" pump and pulls around 360LPH air intake, whereas the SeaSide CS5.5 is running the SK400 and pulls 450LPH. I'm new to really investigating skimmers (in the past I just sort of blindly by suggestion).

Is there anything you can tell me regarding these two pumps and whether or not 'd benefit by the SK400 vs 1.5? Also how much of a difference the LPH air intake should make? Sorry for all the noob questions.


__________________
15+ yrs experience, tanks all sizes. I like the small ones.

20g - 10g Sump, Vortech MP10wES, AquaC Urchin PRO, AI Vega
60g Cube in the works

Current Tank Info: 20g Nano, 10g Sump, AI SOL Blue LED
Reefer94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/01/2013, 11:19 AM   #11
Drae
RAIDER NATION!
 
Drae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: City of sin...
Posts: 3,476
Is there anything you can tell me regarding these two pumps and whether or not 'd benefit by the SK400 vs 1.5? Also how much of a difference the LPH air intake should make? Sorry for all the noob questions.[/QUOTE]

Somehow aquamaxx walks that fine line of almost perfect balance. 360 lph is not much but that skimmer is so balanced it works very well. The bigger sk400 gives you room to valve the air down if needed. I personally like the Aquamaxx better but sea side aquatics are very decent Budget skimmers with great pumps. Either skimmer will skim your tank well at a very decent price point with a great Italian pump. Hope this helps.


Drae is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/01/2013, 12:25 PM   #12
Reefer94
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Memphis
Posts: 174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drae View Post
Somehow aquamaxx walks that fine line of almost perfect balance. 360 lph is not much but that skimmer is so balanced it works very well. The bigger sk400 gives you room to valve the air down if needed. I personally like the Aquamaxx better but sea side aquatics are very decent Budget skimmers with great pumps. Either skimmer will skim your tank well at a very decent price point with a great Italian pump. Hope this helps.
It does. The price point isn't as important as getting the pest possible skimmer in the right range (with exception of course, over $400 starts to scare me a bit on a tank this size). I'm also not concerned with noise, really - so any benefit of the 1.5 may be lost on me.

RLSS honestly still looks like the highest quality skimmer in my price range, the only concern I have is that of it being over-sized, even with the "throttling" options. You've been very helpful, I'll continue to research these a bit. I have plenty of time before any of these skimmers actually see the water. Sigh, decisions.


__________________
15+ yrs experience, tanks all sizes. I like the small ones.

20g - 10g Sump, Vortech MP10wES, AquaC Urchin PRO, AI Vega
60g Cube in the works

Current Tank Info: 20g Nano, 10g Sump, AI SOL Blue LED
Reefer94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/01/2013, 01:20 PM   #13
skimmy
T3am Zissou
 
skimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Galactic Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Posts: 1,123
RLSS 6i Overkill on a 60g Cube?

NO


skimmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
60g, cube, rlss


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.