Black ich on Bi-Color Angel?

daweedski · 09/25/2013, 04:05 PM

I have this Bi-Color Angel for two weeks and it looks like he has black ich on one side on top, on the yellow side. He had pop-eye two days ago so I gave him a freshwater bath and it went away. I have a 46 gallon bow front acrylic with the reef octopus bh-1000 protein skimmer and an aqua-top canister filter. The other inhabitants are 3 scarlet hermit crabs, 1 orchid dotty back, and 2 Ocellaris clowns. There is 40 lbs live sand and 40 lbs base rock. Is this black ich? I also have a diatom outbreak any ideas on getting rid of it. I filled it with tap water(mistake) and am now doing water changes with distilled water. I've had the aquarium up and running for a month. One more thing how much lbs of live rock, do I need to make the base rock turn live?

daweedski · 09/26/2013, 03:15 PM

Anyone know what this is ??

Deinonych · 09/26/2013, 07:42 PM

Really hard to tell from the pics. Was this fish quarantined?

Dmorty217 · 09/27/2013, 09:34 AM

If its black ich it should be all over the fish, not just on one side. How are your water parameters, black ich is often associated with poor water quality. If your not sure Prazipro is reef safe and very effective. As to the question about how much liverock to seed the base rock... A pound or two would suffice or you could do as much as you wanted. I seeded 200lbs of base rock with 30lbs of liverock

daweedski · 10/04/2013, 07:14 PM

Sorry for not replying but I did not subscribe to this post on accident thanks anyway, but it died

Crimson · 10/05/2013, 10:43 AM

Your nitrates are most likely too high (over feeding) which caused the bicolor to have an bacteria infection. Also, imo your tank is too young and not fully cycled. If you used NSW, possible to have the tank ready sooner but you made your own with tap water. Don't worry about the diatoms they will burn out once the silicate is used up.

As of now its a FO tank then you could treat the whole tank but something tells me that your bio filter is not up to par yet to handle the ammonia levels since you cant use carbon or skimming with most treatments.

I would slow down the water changes. Your going to wipe out your bio filter even more and change the chemistry too much if do too many W/C. IMO treat the whole tank at this point and get that biofilter established. You can use seachem paraguard or stress guard (but only one or the other).

Increase your greens for the angel (frozen seaweed dry if it eat it) with garlic.

I use this in my qt and DT:

http://www.cermedia.com/marinepure.php

and

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Good luck

-Paul

daweedski · 10/08/2013, 08:47 PM

Thanks Paul I will take use these tips for trying to rid of the tubellarian!

09/26/2013, 07:42 PM	#3
Deinonych Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,191	Really hard to tell from the pics. Was this fish quarantined? __________________ Chris Hope is not a strategy. Display Tank: DSA 105 w/36gal sump/fuge · 2x MP40wES PHs · 2x Radion Gen2 · Apex w/PM2 · Fish · Corals · Rock · Sand · Water

09/27/2013, 09:34 AM	#4
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	If its black ich it should be all over the fish, not just on one side. How are your water parameters, black ich is often associated with poor water quality. If your not sure Prazipro is reef safe and very effective. As to the question about how much liverock to seed the base rock... A pound or two would suffice or you could do as much as you wanted. I seeded 200lbs of base rock with 30lbs of liverock __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

10/05/2013, 10:43 AM	#6
Crimson Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Jersey Posts: 421	Your nitrates are most likely too high (over feeding) which caused the bicolor to have an bacteria infection. Also, imo your tank is too young and not fully cycled. If you used NSW, possible to have the tank ready sooner but you made your own with tap water. Don't worry about the diatoms they will burn out once the silicate is used up. As of now its a FO tank then you could treat the whole tank but something tells me that your bio filter is not up to par yet to handle the ammonia levels since you cant use carbon or skimming with most treatments. I would slow down the water changes. Your going to wipe out your bio filter even more and change the chemistry too much if do too many W/C. IMO treat the whole tank at this point and get that biofilter established. You can use seachem paraguard or stress guard (but only one or the other). Increase your greens for the angel (frozen seaweed dry if it eat it) with garlic. I use this in my qt and DT: http://www.cermedia.com/marinepure.php and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Good luck -Paul __________________ -Paul New years resolution... staying out of the lounge. Current Tank Info: 36x18x12 AIO Peninsula, T5's 2x Kessil a160we

09/26/2013, 03:15 PM	#2
daweedski Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 57	Anyone know what this is ??

10/04/2013, 07:14 PM	#5
daweedski Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 57	Sorry for not replying but I did not subscribe to this post on accident thanks anyway, but it died

10/08/2013, 08:47 PM	#7
daweedski Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 57	Thanks Paul I will take use these tips for trying to rid of the tubellarian!