Need help with sump/skimmer

meatwad63 · 01/27/2014, 04:09 AM

I have a 95g Wave tank, and it came with a pro-clear aquatics pro 75 wet/dry filter, and it's missing both the skimmer pump, and return pump. I'm wondering what I should do to get this tank up, and going. It currently has about an inch or two of water in with black hawaiian live sand in it.

Blown 346 · 01/27/2014, 04:18 AM

You need to figure out what GPH the overflow box can handle and buy a return pump that will match that after you headloss off the pump. The return pump will have to pump water from the sump to the main tank. and that will reduce you flow. Same for the skimmer, What type of skimmer and what pump works best with it.

meatwad63 · 01/27/2014, 01:41 PM

The Pro clear Pro 75 comes with
a Rio 800 pump on the built protein skimmer, and that's all I know about it.

Blown 346 · 01/28/2014, 05:56 AM

Then the pump will work for the skimmer. Its all about the return pump.

If you get a 600 GPH over flow box you will need to figure out how many feet of either PVC or spa hose you will need for the return back to the tank. also how high thetubing will go up to the tank. you will need a return pump that will push about 900 GPH After your loss of pressure from sending water up the pump will only actually produce close to 600 GPH. Thats the key is matching your return pump with your overflow.

If you have to much flow the return pump, your overflow box wont be able to take all the water to the sump, and your tank will over flow and you can run the sump dry and burn the pump out.

meatwad63 · 01/28/2014, 09:09 PM

The tank has a built in overflow, and the rio 800 is a 211gph at 0cm, and I bought a hydor seltz l40 which is 740gph at 0cm for the return which runs about 2 feet give/take + the pvc running up the overflow to the tank. See I'm just worried my wet/dry filter is not big enough for my tank and that the built in protein skimmer is too wimpy to filter a tank as big as mine. I've heard that your tank should be filtered 5 times in one hour, a 211gph protein skimmer is going to do that. I've also heard that your sump should be 20 to 40% the size of your tank which would put a 20 to 40 gallon sump for my tank, and the wet/dry/sump filter is about 5/8 gallons if that.

Blown 346 · 01/29/2014, 06:59 AM

Actually you want the tanks water to be cycled between 20 to 30 times an hour for a reef tank.

That wet dry will work, I had on on my 75 and it was fine. You want a skimmer that will work on a tank twice the size of the tank you have. If I had a 100 Gallon tank I want a skimmer that will handle a 200 gallon tank. Have you thought about a coralife 220 skimmer? Its the skimmer I have been using on my 90 gallon for over 8 years and it does a heck of a job.

Your skimmer isnt what your relying with actual tank turnover numbers. thats the return pumps job and the flow in GPH you have in your tank. Sump size is all up to you. There isnt really a rule of thumb when it comes to sump size. Bigger the better as you have more water volume, but that doesnt mean your pro clear wont work for you now. I only had a 30 gallon total capacity sump under my 125 and it was fine for years and years.

meatwad63 · 01/29/2014, 08:27 PM

20 to 30 times an hour O.O that's roughly 2500gph the overflow that's built into the tank can only handle 600gph, and I've been looking at a Reef Octopus nwb150 or the Reef Octopus Extreme XS200, but there's no way either would fit in my Pro Clear 75.

01/27/2014, 04:09 AM	#1
meatwad63 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 53	Need help with sump/skimmer I have a 95g Wave tank, and it came with a pro-clear aquatics pro 75 wet/dry filter, and it's missing both the skimmer pump, and return pump. I'm wondering what I should do to get this tank up, and going. It currently has about an inch or two of water in with black hawaiian live sand in it.

01/27/2014, 04:18 AM	#2
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	You need to figure out what GPH the overflow box can handle and buy a return pump that will match that after you headloss off the pump. The return pump will have to pump water from the sump to the main tank. and that will reduce you flow. Same for the skimmer, What type of skimmer and what pump works best with it.

01/27/2014, 01:41 PM	#3
meatwad63 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 53	The Pro clear Pro 75 comes with a Rio 800 pump on the built protein skimmer, and that's all I know about it.

01/28/2014, 05:56 AM	#4
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	Then the pump will work for the skimmer. Its all about the return pump. If you get a 600 GPH over flow box you will need to figure out how many feet of either PVC or spa hose you will need for the return back to the tank. also how high thetubing will go up to the tank. you will need a return pump that will push about 900 GPH After your loss of pressure from sending water up the pump will only actually produce close to 600 GPH. Thats the key is matching your return pump with your overflow. If you have to much flow the return pump, your overflow box wont be able to take all the water to the sump, and your tank will over flow and you can run the sump dry and burn the pump out.

01/28/2014, 09:09 PM	#5
meatwad63 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 53	The tank has a built in overflow, and the rio 800 is a 211gph at 0cm, and I bought a hydor seltz l40 which is 740gph at 0cm for the return which runs about 2 feet give/take + the pvc running up the overflow to the tank. See I'm just worried my wet/dry filter is not big enough for my tank and that the built in protein skimmer is too wimpy to filter a tank as big as mine. I've heard that your tank should be filtered 5 times in one hour, a 211gph protein skimmer is going to do that. I've also heard that your sump should be 20 to 40% the size of your tank which would put a 20 to 40 gallon sump for my tank, and the wet/dry/sump filter is about 5/8 gallons if that.

01/29/2014, 06:59 AM	#6
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	Actually you want the tanks water to be cycled between 20 to 30 times an hour for a reef tank. That wet dry will work, I had on on my 75 and it was fine. You want a skimmer that will work on a tank twice the size of the tank you have. If I had a 100 Gallon tank I want a skimmer that will handle a 200 gallon tank. Have you thought about a coralife 220 skimmer? Its the skimmer I have been using on my 90 gallon for over 8 years and it does a heck of a job. Your skimmer isnt what your relying with actual tank turnover numbers. thats the return pumps job and the flow in GPH you have in your tank. Sump size is all up to you. There isnt really a rule of thumb when it comes to sump size. Bigger the better as you have more water volume, but that doesnt mean your pro clear wont work for you now. I only had a 30 gallon total capacity sump under my 125 and it was fine for years and years.

01/29/2014, 08:27 PM	#7
meatwad63 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 53	20 to 30 times an hour O.O that's roughly 2500gph the overflow that's built into the tank can only handle 600gph, and I've been looking at a Reef Octopus nwb150 or the Reef Octopus Extreme XS200, but there's no way either would fit in my Pro Clear 75.