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Unread 04/04/2014, 11:46 PM   #1
dbsalinas89
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Can i have more fish?

3 month old 90 gallon reef

Salinity: 1.024

Calcium: 420

Phosp: 0

Ammonia: 0

Nitrite: 0

Nitrate: 0 - 10

Dkh: 9 - 12

Ph: 7.8 - 8.4


Live rock / sand
45 lbs of purple rock
90 lbs of Fiji live rock
90 lbs of live carribean fine sand
45 lbs of medium grade live sand

Lighting:

On the fence between 2x hydra fifty two's or ati's hybrid powermodule 4x t5 and 3x 75 watt led

Currently:

48' T5 HO
1 aqua blue plus
1 lunar blue

48' Reef brite VHO all blue led

Filtration:
Penguin 350 carbon filter
Aqua-c remora-s hob skimmer with mj-1200 pump

Flow:
2x 1600 gph powerheads on 5 minute intervals with jbj wave maker kit

Dosing: magnesium, strontium, calcium, dts, iodine

Feeding:

homemade garlic shrimp mixture for fish

Silversides for anemone

3 cubes brine shrimp a week

5 gallon water change weekly

Current inhabitants:

Fish-
firefish, sailfin tang, hippo tang, 2 mated clarki clowns, domino damsel, snowflake eel, cleaner wrasse

Inverts:

20 blue leg hermits, 20 red leg hermits, condy anemone, rainbow day - glo bubble tip, 20 turbo snails, 1 ninja star snail, 2 bumble bee snails, 5 nassarius snails, 3 emerald crabs, cleaner shrimp, pencil urchin

Corals:

8 orange, 7 blue, 1 green ricordia
Multicolored discosoma mushrooms
Superman mushroom
Blue rhodactis mushroom
Orange / green branching and purple branching hammer coral
Nepthea
Starburst star polyp
Green with blue tips torch
Green / purple highlighter splatter frogspawn
Encrusting gorgonian
Fire and ice, fruit loop, rasta , multiple other zoas ( 150+ polyps )
Red and blue blasto
Red and blue micro mussa
7 head blue tentacle green eyed duncan
25 yellow polyps



the full tank shot is most recent but i had just done a water change so it is cloudy. ( i blow my rocks off and top of sand bed with powerhead just before waterchange weekly )



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Unread 04/04/2014, 11:51 PM   #2
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Forgot to mention in the front and right corners is a red graciliara plant





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Unread 04/04/2014, 11:51 PM   #3
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I think you should stop and let these inhabitants grow. Both sailfin and hippo like lots of swimming room.


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Unread 04/04/2014, 11:52 PM   #4
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Unread 04/04/2014, 11:52 PM   #5
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Woops didnt mean to upload plate coral. But i forgot to mention him on the list of corals


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Unread 04/05/2014, 02:52 AM   #6
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Rule of thumb by some is an inch a gallon. So it depends on the size of your fish.


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Unread 04/05/2014, 03:08 AM   #7
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2 inch firefish, 3 inch sailfin, 1 inch hippo, 2 inch domino damsel, 10 inch snowflake eel, 2 x 3 inch clowns, 2 inch cleaner wrasse


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Unread 04/05/2014, 03:11 AM   #8
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Rule of thumb by some is an inch a gallon. So it depends on the size of your fish.
This is not a good way to determine appropriate stocking.


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Unread 04/05/2014, 03:12 AM   #9
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This is not a good way to determine appropriate stocking.
I agree with you clubs fan. But you will see a lot of ppl that go by this rule. I suggest planning ahead for how big the fish will grow and how much room they need.


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Unread 04/05/2014, 03:15 AM   #10
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Start planning a bigger tank yesterday is my opinion if you haven't already! Sailfin at 3" is ready for a 6ft tank and the hippo won't be far behind.


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Unread 04/05/2014, 03:24 AM   #11
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I agree with you clubs fan. But you will see a lot of ppl that go by this rule. I suggest planning ahead for how big the fish will grow and how much room they need.
I don't think anyone who has done any legit research goes by this old rule any more. Only stores trying to make an extra buck. There are far more factors than how big a fish gets. That damsel will eventually dominate larger fish all day long for example.


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Unread 04/05/2014, 04:04 AM   #12
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I don't think anyone who has done any legit research goes by this old rule any more. Only stores trying to make an extra buck. There are far more factors than how big a fish gets. That damsel will eventually dominate larger fish all day long for example.

so what are the say top 5 rules of thumb to go by?


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Actually there are no "rules of thumb" in sizing aquaria and fish with in them. Much of it is determined by fish behavior, some of it is dependent on size, much is determined by tank mate behavior, and to a large degree it is determined by the number of fish in the same ecological niche. As such it is more of an art than a science. With the original posters stocking list, I would suggest subtracting fish rather than adding them.


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I agree on removing fish, not adding. I have had both Clarkis and Domino damsels. As the domino gets older it will become very agressive to anything in the tank. Mine used to go after anything that went into the tank (hands included). Also the Clarki's can get aggressive (especially if they are mated and begin to lay eggs). I will not jump on the tangs other then to say they will outgrow your tank very soon. I would save my money for an upgrade.


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The tangs alone demand a larger tank, plus you have an eel. No matter what you want to call it now, you have a 90 gal eel tank. Once that eel gets big enough, it will determine everything in that tank (what lives\dies, what new additions can be added, and where unglued rocks will go). I would try to rehome the tangs or upgrade since they need a larger aquarium. The snowflake can live its whole life in a 90, but I wouldn't go much smaller.Then you have other stuff. You aquarium is stocked. Dont add more. Like others said, start subtracting.


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I agree on removing fish, not adding. I have had both Clarkis and Domino damsels. As the domino gets older it will become very agressive to anything in the tank. Mine used to go after anything that went into the tank (hands included). Also the Clarki's can get aggressive (especially if they are mated and begin to lay eggs). I will not jump on the tangs other then to say they will outgrow your tank very soon. I would save my money for an upgrade.
Isn't that the truth! For clownfish, it turns out that the amount of tank space they want to control once bonded and mating is directly proportional to the adult size of the clownfish. In the case of A. clarkii, that would be about 50 gallons of tank space. And they are vicious enough to draw blood.


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