Garlic?

[ViktorVaughn]

Originally Posted by ahmed_iAM

If it has no value why do people use it?

The same reason Lobotomies were so popular in the 1940's and 1950's to "cure" psychiatric disorders, it sometimes takes actual scientific facts and studies a bit of time to catch up with the hype and high number of people looking for quick and easy cure-alls.

[ahmed_iAM]

Speaking of organics, I feed my yellow tang and foxface bananas, oranges, broccoli, pineapple and and brussle sprouts. None of these would cause the fish any issues down the road right? I know brussle sprouts and broccoli are fine but what about fruit? My clownfish love citrus fruits and my new blue throat trigger eats it as well.

[snorvich]

No, I think tmz was referring to carbon sources.

[JWClark]

At least some things haven't changed in the 10 yrs I was out of this hobby. Always a need for snake oil.

[ynot65]

My fish love it, they are healthy and all over 2 years old. My mandarin will eat frozen mysis since I've used it (garlic guard) so he's no longer reliant on most pods.
Garlic has been a secret weapon in the bass fishing tournement world to the extent that it is now common place and is proven to entice fish to feed. And in the aquarium world a well fed fish is a healthy fish. I've never had an episode of Ich but did suspect my foxface had it when I first got him. No special treatment and he's know about 4" and healthy as a horse!!! And yes some of his nori sheets have garlic.
I'm not a hater of it and have no reason to be suspect of any bad effects. I have also used it to train my suns (yellow and black) to open as soon as they get any hint of garlic in the water, making feeding them easy.
I also have no problems with vampires!!!!!

[CoralBeauty13]

It has helped me keep some of the most beautiful and healthy fish in my tank. It made a blenny attach the turkey baster once I mixed the garlic and put it near him and squirted some in his face. Now as soon as he sees it, it's his free for all food source..this after 8 months of him just looking at as I feed other things.

[ynot65]

"Furthermore, since garlic is a non-natural food, the antigen effect of a novel compound may have been responsible for increased immune response", my fish also have no bacterial problems

[inetmug]

Gainesville Green?

Seriously, I know many many that believe in the garlic. Warewolves? I have some pellets that have garlic in them, fish do like'em.

Hell, I just bought a $30 bottle of Ick Kick, what the hell do I know....

Dizzy from all the options and opinions LOL.

[ynot65]

Wolfsbane for werewolves!!!!

[cubsFAN]

I've been using the ecoaqualizer. Stopped feeding my tank completely. Everything is thriving except my yellow tang, my purple tang, my lion fish, my trigger, my cardinals, my dotty back and my clean up crew. One of my clowns is also sick. His mate is sleeping peacefully on my carpet. So cute. Corals look great, they're made out of plastic. Just wipe the algae off and they're good as new.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by cubsFAN

I've been using the ecoaqualizer. Stopped feeding my tank completely. Everything is thriving except my yellow tang, my purple tang, my lion fish, my trigger, my cardinals, my dotty back and my clean up crew. One of my clowns is also sick. His mate is sleeping peacefully on my carpet. So cute. Corals look great, they're made out of plastic. Just wipe the algae off and they're good as new.

ROTFLMAO. I had forgotten about the ecoaqualizer!

[tmz]

I think using some of the garlic it as an appetite enhancer for fish might be ok in small amounts but I have trouble getting past potential negative effects like damage to gut flora and fauna , transient hypoglycemia and interference with ureagenesis and lipids which may be associted with heavy or long term use. Seems to be at lest as much potential downside as upside for using it with marine fish or bringing in significant amounts it to a reef tank .

[Sleepiness]

I only used the garlic once when I ran out of other options. Surprisingly it helped, but i haven't had any other need for garlic since.

[mluntz]

Originally Posted by tmz

I'm always concerned about organics I put in the aquarium water.

Originally Posted by snorvich

Yes, there is that issue as well.

When you mention organics, are you referring to adding nutrients which could cause other problems, such as increased phosphates and nuisance algae and cyano issues?

[Mael]

What about the garlic they use in ON or NLS pellets? Is it not fresh and therefor no other benfit other than fish seem to like the smell/flavor of the garlic stuff more than regular?

[tmz]

Originally Posted by mluntz

When you mention organics, are you referring to adding nutrients which could cause other problems, such as increased phosphates and nuisance algae and cyano issues?

Not nutrients per se though garlic contains some phosphorus, iron , and organic carbon as well as trace metals including zinc which could be a concern. The allicin contains sulfur as well. These may not be an issue at low levels . However, adding an organic compound can effect many reactions and activities in a closed system . I'm personally particularly wary of any claiming anti microbial properties.

[mluntz]

Originally Posted by tmz

Not nutrients per se though garlic contains some phosphorus, iron , and organic carbon as well as trace metals including zinc which could be a concern. The allicin contains sulfur as well. These may not be an issue at low levels . However, adding an organic compound can effect many reactions and activities in a closed system . I'm personally particularly wary of any claiming anti microbial properties.

So basically not a good idea. What about garlic additives in fish food? Stay away from that also? I see that the flake food I use from time to time has a garlic additive in it.

[tmz]

I don't see any benefit to adding it to foods. That's my opinion . Maybe appetite enhacement but that's a pretty subjective observation. Again in small quantities I'm not sure it will hurt but I'm particular about organics going into the water. My surgeon fish gobble up nori with garlic and nori without it with equal vigor. Ditto mysis. brine ,etc.