Clown going crazy PLEASE HELP

njcastillo86 · 05/13/2014, 03:30 PM

http://youtu.be/BlJk3CzTZYA

I added two snow flake clowns about 4 weeks ago. The female is doing great since day one the male has always acted a little funny. He used to sit at the bottom, looked like he was rapidly breathing and not moving around much. I took it as him getting used to the tank. Recently he has been swimming on his side still resting at the bottom. it seems as if he can only turn right and when he tries to swim he will just spin like a dog chasing its tail. Every once in a white he will completely go crazy and swim as fast as possible in circles all around the tank and slam into the rocks the glass anything in his way. After that for about 30 seconds he will go right back to swimming on his side and only being able to spin. When its feeding time he seems to be perfectly aware and will manage to side swim to get food and eat. I see no signs of disease and I recorded a video and showed it to two separate reef stores and no one can come up with a explanation to what is wrong with him. Tank history 16 gal nuvo with mp10 turned all the way to lowest lagoon setting, IM skimmer. Tank has been running for 3 months and clowns added about 3-4 weeks ago. Tank runs at 79-80.5 and the clowns are only fish in there and the only I plan to have in there. I test regularly and ammonia stays at 0 nitrates between 0 and highest 10-20 ppm. My weekly water changes bring that down. I've been feeding mysis shrimp with garlic. Please see video and let me know any ideas or suggestions.

kingpin9995 · 05/14/2014, 11:36 AM

Sounds to me like he has some sort of infection that is throwing off his balance . Kind of like dropsy in fresh water fish that causes bloating .. He may need to be treated before he eventually dies. Some sort of infection going on

Mynx · 05/14/2014, 10:33 PM

Perhaps a form of Swim Bladder Disease? I'm not sure if it extends to all fish or not... Hopefully you can get it figured out quickly.

OrionN · 05/15/2014, 05:32 AM

fish swim balder problem struggle to stay off of the floor or float to the top and struggle to dive. They have problem adjusting their buoyancy.
Your fish cannot not coordinate his swimming. He likely having problem with control his muscle and fins to swim straight. The episodes where he swimming rapidly and bang into things are likely seizure.
I think he is brain damaged and will not do well. He may have some form of infection to his central nervous system, anoxic injury in shipping, trauma to the head. Any of these events can cause his neurological system to be damage. I don't think he will do well long term.

Mynx · 05/15/2014, 09:19 AM

Ah thanks for clearing up the swim bladder thing, Minh.

njcastillo86 · 05/15/2014, 10:49 AM

Yea I deffently don't think it's swim bladder bc he does not float to the top and he stays towards the bottom. I just fed them and he will almost swim straight and eat, now he's swimming in the the tank with just a little lean. But he's done this before and I'll leave and come back from work and he will be back to completely sideways at the bottom. He always give me hope after he eats but a couple hours pass and he looks pretty bad. I just wish there was something I could do to help.

05/13/2014, 03:30 PM	#1
njcastillo86 Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 23	Clown going crazy PLEASE HELP http://youtu.be/BlJk3CzTZYA I added two snow flake clowns about 4 weeks ago. The female is doing great since day one the male has always acted a little funny. He used to sit at the bottom, looked like he was rapidly breathing and not moving around much. I took it as him getting used to the tank. Recently he has been swimming on his side still resting at the bottom. it seems as if he can only turn right and when he tries to swim he will just spin like a dog chasing its tail. Every once in a white he will completely go crazy and swim as fast as possible in circles all around the tank and slam into the rocks the glass anything in his way. After that for about 30 seconds he will go right back to swimming on his side and only being able to spin. When its feeding time he seems to be perfectly aware and will manage to side swim to get food and eat. I see no signs of disease and I recorded a video and showed it to two separate reef stores and no one can come up with a explanation to what is wrong with him. Tank history 16 gal nuvo with mp10 turned all the way to lowest lagoon setting, IM skimmer. Tank has been running for 3 months and clowns added about 3-4 weeks ago. Tank runs at 79-80.5 and the clowns are only fish in there and the only I plan to have in there. I test regularly and ammonia stays at 0 nitrates between 0 and highest 10-20 ppm. My weekly water changes bring that down. I've been feeding mysis shrimp with garlic. Please see video and let me know any ideas or suggestions.

05/14/2014, 10:33 PM	#3
Mynx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Winnipeg MB Posts: 188	Perhaps a form of Swim Bladder Disease? I'm not sure if it extends to all fish or not... Hopefully you can get it figured out quickly. __________________ Mary Whenever I open my mouth, the words that come out are from experience or from hours of research, listen to the experts before me. Current Tank Info: Upgrade to 90 Gallon in works... :3

05/15/2014, 05:32 AM	#4
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	fish swim balder problem struggle to stay off of the floor or float to the top and struggle to dive. They have problem adjusting their buoyancy. Your fish cannot not coordinate his swimming. He likely having problem with control his muscle and fins to swim straight. The episodes where he swimming rapidly and bang into things are likely seizure. I think he is brain damaged and will not do well. He may have some form of infection to his central nervous system, anoxic injury in shipping, trauma to the head. Any of these events can cause his neurological system to be damage. I don't think he will do well long term. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

05/15/2014, 09:19 AM	#5
Mynx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Winnipeg MB Posts: 188	Ah thanks for clearing up the swim bladder thing, Minh. __________________ Mary Whenever I open my mouth, the words that come out are from experience or from hours of research, listen to the experts before me. Current Tank Info: Upgrade to 90 Gallon in works... :3

05/14/2014, 11:36 AM	#2
kingpin9995 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 181	Sounds to me like he has some sort of infection that is throwing off his balance . Kind of like dropsy in fresh water fish that causes bloating .. He may need to be treated before he eventually dies. Some sort of infection going on

05/15/2014, 10:49 AM	#6
njcastillo86 Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 23	Yea I deffently don't think it's swim bladder bc he does not float to the top and he stays towards the bottom. I just fed them and he will almost swim straight and eat, now he's swimming in the the tank with just a little lean. But he's done this before and I'll leave and come back from work and he will be back to completely sideways at the bottom. He always give me hope after he eats but a couple hours pass and he looks pretty bad. I just wish there was something I could do to help.