Help identify please?!???

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 10:40 AM

I have. Couple fish that are showing this dirty looking appearance. Here are some pics any help?

HumbleFish · 05/15/2014, 10:57 AM

Can you post pics of your other fish that look like this? Have you tested all your water parameters lately? Any new fish added recently? Do you QT?

Weird splotches can mean something infectious is being passed around the tank... but it also could be due to a water quality issue.

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 11:07 AM

They others aren't as bad as him and can't tell. I am battling ich and treating the entire tank with CP today. Ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 50 or 60. A little high I know.

Rea17 · 05/15/2014, 11:29 AM

Looks like he has a secondary bacterial infection from the splotches and a sore starting on the tail.

MrTuskfish · 05/15/2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchSutherland

They others aren't as bad as him and can't tell. I am battling ich and treating the entire tank with CP today. Ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 50 or 60. A little high I know.

Dosing CP in a DT is "iffy" at best because you have no way of knowing how much med is being absorbed by the LA & substrate. Or do you have another QT set up?

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 12:04 PM

I am just hoping that it will work and qt from then on. It not then I will let it go fallow and treat in qt

HumbleFish · 05/15/2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rea17

Looks like he has a secondary bacterial infection from the splotches and a sore starting on the tail.

+1 Secondary infections are very possible when battling ich, and I believe I have read that both CP & copper can suppress the immune system. Making a bacterial infection even more likely.

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Originally Posted by MrTuskfish

Dosing CP in a DT is "iffy" at best because you have no way of knowing how much med is being absorbed by the LA & substrate.

I have yet to read one CP "success story" when used to treat ich in a DT w/rock & sand. Seems like just some weird red hair algae grows post treatment.

MrTuskfish · 05/15/2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchSutherland

I am just hoping that it will work and qt from then on. It not then I will let it go fallow and treat in qt

Expect to lose all algae; this can be a lot of additional waste for your bio-filter to handle.

Deinonych · 05/15/2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

I have yet to read one CP "success story" when used to treat ich in a DT w/rock & sand. Seems like just some weird red hair algae grows post treatment.

This. I tried CP in my DT and it didn't work. Best to dose it in a dedicated hospital tank where you have more control.

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 05:08 PM

Can I have some live rock in my quarantine for filtration??? While doing CP?

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 06:18 PM

And I know CP is sensitive to light. But are any lights acceptable. I have a bit of sunlight that could come in. It's pretty much indirect sunlight. I could cover up my window so it would come in but could florescent be used or anything?

MitchSutherland · 05/15/2014, 06:25 PM

I have a 45 watt light above my tank and I got it covered mainly. Is this too much?

HumbleFish · 05/15/2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchSutherland

I have a 45 watt light above my tank and I got it covered mainly. Is this too much?

That should be fine.

Deinonych · 05/16/2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MitchSutherland

Can I have some live rock in my quarantine for filtration??? While doing CP?

I don't like putting any LR or substrate in a QT/HT - it introduces variables that complicate treatment. I prefer to use ceramic media in a HOB filter combined with Bio-spira for a biofilter. Bio-spira is one of the few bacteria-in-a-bottle products that actually works.

05/15/2014, 11:29 AM	#4
Rea17 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 1,254	Looks like he has a secondary bacterial infection from the splotches and a sore starting on the tail. __________________ -Ami- Current Tank Info: 520g Reef Tank

05/15/2014, 10:57 AM	#2
HumbleFish Moved On Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,757	Can you post pics of your other fish that look like this? Have you tested all your water parameters lately? Any new fish added recently? Do you QT? Weird splotches can mean something infectious is being passed around the tank... but it also could be due to a water quality issue.

05/15/2014, 11:07 AM	#3
MitchSutherland Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Mishawaka, Indiana Posts: 258	They others aren't as bad as him and can't tell. I am battling ich and treating the entire tank with CP today. Ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 50 or 60. A little high I know.

05/15/2014, 12:04 PM	#6
MitchSutherland Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Mishawaka, Indiana Posts: 258	I am just hoping that it will work and qt from then on. It not then I will let it go fallow and treat in qt

05/15/2014, 05:08 PM	#10
MitchSutherland Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Mishawaka, Indiana Posts: 258	Can I have some live rock in my quarantine for filtration??? While doing CP?

05/15/2014, 06:18 PM	#11
MitchSutherland Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Mishawaka, Indiana Posts: 258	And I know CP is sensitive to light. But are any lights acceptable. I have a bit of sunlight that could come in. It's pretty much indirect sunlight. I could cover up my window so it would come in but could florescent be used or anything?