Rate this 40 breeder stock list

JMurphy97 · 05/23/2014, 09:55 AM

Here is what I'm planning on stocking my 40 breeder with. This tank will be all sps with maybe some lps. I'm using a reef dynamics ins-100 skimmer and I have a reactor for carbon/gfo. I'm on the fence about if I'll run the carbon/gfo though. I like the idea of running only a skimmer and water changes. I'm looking for color and activity at all levels of the sand. Also currently I' bare bottom. Anyways here's the list and let me know any suggestions. Thanks.

2 O.Clownfish
3 Zebra Barred Darfish
Midas Blenny
Firefish (Purple or Helfrichi)
Royal Gramma
Banggai Cardinalfish

cloak · 05/23/2014, 10:13 AM

It's a little on the heavy side IMO, but I think it can work. If anything, I would probably loose one of the barred dartfish. GL.

JMurphy97 · 05/23/2014, 10:22 AM

The LFS said the royal gramma should be added last because it can become aggressive toward new fish. Is there any truth to this? What would be the best order to add these fish?

cloak · 05/23/2014, 10:32 AM

I think so. They usually pick out a cave and stay close to it. Kind of territorial. The pair of clowns can be aggressive too, but fish like the dartfish, the bangaii cardinal, the firefish, & the royal gramma don't really pose a threat to the clowns IMO, so they might pay them no mind. As far which order to add these fish, your guess is as good as mine. I would definitely add the royal gramma and the clowns last though. GL.

sponger0 · 05/23/2014, 10:56 AM

I would expect the clowns to be more aggressive than the RG. RG's tend to find a spot, stick to it and stay there and guard it. But not really aggressive. Clowns on the other hand can become quite aggressive

ViktorVaughn · 05/23/2014, 11:04 AM

I got a zebra barred dartfish as I really like other dartfish but mine was a royal PIA. He dug in my sandbed nonstop and would always create sand tornados and bury coral. I put up with him for a month before I had enough.

thegrun · 05/23/2014, 11:13 AM

For an SPS tank IMHO I would not try to keep that many fish, it's going to be hard to keep the phosphates and nitrates low. I've owned several Royal Grammas over the years and have found them to be quite shy, not aggressive.

SwampyBill · 05/23/2014, 11:50 AM

I agree that's kinda overloaded for a 40 breeder. The clowns will probly take up 25 gallons of real estate by themselves...You should drop Snorvich a note in the sticky 'check out your intended fish purchases'. Steve & Sk8r have decades of experience & give excellent suggestions on stocking order, compatibility, aggression, etc.

JMurphy97 · 05/23/2014, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the replies!

05/23/2014, 09:55 AM	#1
JMurphy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 397	Rate this 40 breeder stock list Here is what I'm planning on stocking my 40 breeder with. This tank will be all sps with maybe some lps. I'm using a reef dynamics ins-100 skimmer and I have a reactor for carbon/gfo. I'm on the fence about if I'll run the carbon/gfo though. I like the idea of running only a skimmer and water changes. I'm looking for color and activity at all levels of the sand. Also currently I' bare bottom. Anyways here's the list and let me know any suggestions. Thanks. 2 O.Clownfish 3 Zebra Barred Darfish Midas Blenny Firefish (Purple or Helfrichi) Royal Gramma Banggai Cardinalfish __________________ 40 Breeder + 29g sump Glass-Holes 300 Overflow - Reef Dynamics INS-100 Skimmer Eheim compact 2000 Return Pump - 2-Vortech MP10es Vortech Radion Lighting - Reef Keeper Lite Controller BRS Reactor-

05/23/2014, 10:22 AM	#3
JMurphy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 397	The LFS said the royal gramma should be added last because it can become aggressive toward new fish. Is there any truth to this? What would be the best order to add these fish? __________________ 40 Breeder + 29g sump Glass-Holes 300 Overflow - Reef Dynamics INS-100 Skimmer Eheim compact 2000 Return Pump - 2-Vortech MP10es Vortech Radion Lighting - Reef Keeper Lite Controller BRS Reactor-

05/23/2014, 11:50 AM	#8
SwampyBill Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: St. Pete, FL. Posts: 2,369	I agree that's kinda overloaded for a 40 breeder. The clowns will probly take up 25 gallons of real estate by themselves...You should drop Snorvich a note in the sticky 'check out your intended fish purchases'. Steve & Sk8r have decades of experience & give excellent suggestions on stocking order, compatibility, aggression, etc. __________________ I love me some wrasse... & laissez les bon temps rouler! Current Tank Info: 120 gal Vizio Last edited by SwampyBill; 05/23/2014 at 12:05 PM.

05/23/2014, 03:32 PM	#9
JMurphy97 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 397	Thanks for the replies! __________________ 40 Breeder + 29g sump Glass-Holes 300 Overflow - Reef Dynamics INS-100 Skimmer Eheim compact 2000 Return Pump - 2-Vortech MP10es Vortech Radion Lighting - Reef Keeper Lite Controller BRS Reactor-

05/23/2014, 10:13 AM	#2
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	It's a little on the heavy side IMO, but I think it can work. If anything, I would probably loose one of the barred dartfish. GL.

05/23/2014, 10:32 AM	#4
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	I think so. They usually pick out a cave and stay close to it. Kind of territorial. The pair of clowns can be aggressive too, but fish like the dartfish, the bangaii cardinal, the firefish, & the royal gramma don't really pose a threat to the clowns IMO, so they might pay them no mind. As far which order to add these fish, your guess is as good as mine. I would definitely add the royal gramma and the clowns last though. GL.

05/23/2014, 10:56 AM	#5
sponger0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 6,659	I would expect the clowns to be more aggressive than the RG. RG's tend to find a spot, stick to it and stay there and guard it. But not really aggressive. Clowns on the other hand can become quite aggressive

05/23/2014, 11:04 AM	#6
ViktorVaughn Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 619	I got a zebra barred dartfish as I really like other dartfish but mine was a royal PIA. He dug in my sandbed nonstop and would always create sand tornados and bury coral. I put up with him for a month before I had enough.

05/23/2014, 11:13 AM	#7
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	For an SPS tank IMHO I would not try to keep that many fish, it's going to be hard to keep the phosphates and nitrates low. I've owned several Royal Grammas over the years and have found them to be quite shy, not aggressive.