Does anyone have a tank too clean for mushrooms?

cherubfish pair · 08/26/2014, 11:22 PM

I can keep LPS, zoas, gsp but a rock with over 12 mushroom polyps is down to 2 now and shriveling up.

Do I have too little nutrients?

o2manyfish · 08/27/2014, 01:09 AM

I have lots of corals of all types doing well in my system. But my mushrooms (about 8 colonies) are very static. They don't grow, they don't propagate, they don't spread. And I have lost a couple (both individuals and a colony of ricordia).

I don't know what is missing they look good, but they aren't happy. I also have a Neon Green toadstool which is just wallowing and shriveling in the tank. While at the same time I have another piece outside in the same water, but in indirect sunlight which is flourishing.

Dave B

whosurcaddie · 08/27/2014, 01:16 AM

I had two rics melt away on me in a carbon dosed tank. 0 no3 0 po4.

Pife · 08/27/2014, 06:32 AM

Can't keep rics here either.

ahmed_iAM · 08/27/2014, 07:45 AM

Have mushrooms and Ric's in my system. I keep nutrients low just due to how much algae I get if I don't. I've never lost a mushroom due to parameters, only lose them when they decide to move to the underside of the rock and I can't remove them from it.

jda · 08/27/2014, 08:27 AM

It is more likely the lighting. I had a ric rock with dozens melt in one spot, but int he same tank, off to the side, they grew like crazy.

mfinn · 08/27/2014, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherubfish pair

I can keep LPS, zoas, gsp but a rock with over 12 mushroom polyps is down to 2 now and shriveling up.

Do I have too little nutrients?

What is your lighting?

I know in my tank unless I put mushrooms in a really shaded area they don't do well.
I'm using Radions at 65% intensity.

cherubfish pair · 08/27/2014, 08:46 AM

AI Sols at 30%.

johnd4g · 08/27/2014, 09:38 AM

Same story here. SPS, LPS, and most softies look great. Mushrooms aren't dying, but not flourishing either. Same thing for a small clump of Xenia that a friend gave me recently. Moving them to another tank with just softies in it, should do better there.

o2manyfish · 08/27/2014, 10:46 AM

I'm runnning Radions they are at different settings for different areas of the tank, I think the ones near the mushrooms are at about 65%. Most of my mushrooms are all the way at the bottom of the tank (29"). But the ones doing the best are just 6" from the surface that have Xenia growing up through them.

I also have one patch of purple Rhodactis, which is actually doing well in terms of being open, keeping color, just not propagating and it is underneath inside a cave.

JOhnd4g, My Xenia population is flourishing. In the connected outside tanks I have over 1000's stalks flourishing. In the display tank I probably have between 100-200 stalks of pulsing xenia which for the first time in a very long time, I am actually harvesting xenia from the display tank.

Dave B

buildinboats · 08/27/2014, 06:52 PM

Be careful what you wish for. My tank is being overrun by shrooms and they are not easy to remove. I'm thinking about building a miniature power washer to use in the tank to cut the shrooms down!

ChallengedOne · 08/27/2014, 09:34 PM

I can't keep shrooms either in a 20gal standard with a kessil a 150... Just dsnt happen and I've given up ...

fishchef · 08/28/2014, 06:37 PM

I used to have a lot of mushrooms, but I had some issues that were attributed to high PO4 and NO3. My PO4 stays around .04 to .19 and my NO3 10/25 ppm.
I run 4 bulb T-5's. All my mushrooms are gone and some leathers. All my LPS, Clams, and some leathers have been around for years.

08/26/2014, 11:22 PM	#1
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	Does anyone have a tank too clean for mushrooms? I can keep LPS, zoas, gsp but a rock with over 12 mushroom polyps is down to 2 now and shriveling up. Do I have too little nutrients? __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

08/27/2014, 01:09 AM	#2
o2manyfish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Encino, CA Posts: 6,199	I have lots of corals of all types doing well in my system. But my mushrooms (about 8 colonies) are very static. They don't grow, they don't propagate, they don't spread. And I have lost a couple (both individuals and a colony of ricordia). I don't know what is missing they look good, but they aren't happy. I also have a Neon Green toadstool which is just wallowing and shriveling in the tank. While at the same time I have another piece outside in the same water, but in indirect sunlight which is flourishing. Dave B __________________ 560g Display. 1500g System Volume. (2) 180g Outdoor Frag Tanks. 340g Sump, 30g 2 story surge tank. Dasatco EXT 9. Bubble King Skimmer. Ozone. UV. 5' Fluidized Sand Filter. Avast Kalk Mixer. Current Tank Info: 560g SPS Dominant Reef / 1500g Total System

08/27/2014, 06:32 AM	#4
Pife Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7,408	Can't keep rics here either. __________________ Brandon I'm not saying let's get rid of all the stupid people.* I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out. Current Tank Info: 150g DT plumbed to an 80g frag tank and 220g sump in the basement. ~6-MP40s ~ 12 ATI powered t5s ~ Reefbrites and Radions supplementing ~ Custom GEO Skimmer ~ GEO CA Reactor 6x24~ Iwaki 70 Return ~

08/27/2014, 08:46 AM	#8
cherubfish pair Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Libby, Montana Posts: 7,061 Blog Entries: 1	AI Sols at 30%. __________________ pairo chero Thanks for looking at my build thread and subscribe to it if you already haven't yet! Current Tank Info: thirty rimless

08/27/2014, 09:38 AM	#9
johnd4g Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Slidell, LA Posts: 159	Same story here. SPS, LPS, and most softies look great. Mushrooms aren't dying, but not flourishing either. Same thing for a small clump of Xenia that a friend gave me recently. Moving them to another tank with just softies in it, should do better there. __________________ * John * Current Tank Info: 120 gal mixed reef, 25 gal nano

08/27/2014, 01:16 AM	#3
whosurcaddie Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,354	I had two rics melt away on me in a carbon dosed tank. 0 no3 0 po4.

08/27/2014, 07:45 AM	#5
ahmed_iAM Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 419	Have mushrooms and Ric's in my system. I keep nutrients low just due to how much algae I get if I don't. I've never lost a mushroom due to parameters, only lose them when they decide to move to the underside of the rock and I can't remove them from it.

08/27/2014, 08:27 AM	#6
jda Dogmatic Dinosaur Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 6,256	It is more likely the lighting. I had a ric rock with dozens melt in one spot, but int he same tank, off to the side, they grew like crazy.

08/27/2014, 10:46 AM	#10
o2manyfish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Encino, CA Posts: 6,199	I'm runnning Radions they are at different settings for different areas of the tank, I think the ones near the mushrooms are at about 65%. Most of my mushrooms are all the way at the bottom of the tank (29"). But the ones doing the best are just 6" from the surface that have Xenia growing up through them. I also have one patch of purple Rhodactis, which is actually doing well in terms of being open, keeping color, just not propagating and it is underneath inside a cave. JOhnd4g, My Xenia population is flourishing. In the connected outside tanks I have over 1000's stalks flourishing. In the display tank I probably have between 100-200 stalks of pulsing xenia which for the first time in a very long time, I am actually harvesting xenia from the display tank. Dave B __________________ 560g Display. 1500g System Volume. (2) 180g Outdoor Frag Tanks. 340g Sump, 30g 2 story surge tank. Dasatco EXT 9. Bubble King Skimmer. Ozone. UV. 5' Fluidized Sand Filter. Avast Kalk Mixer. Current Tank Info: 560g SPS Dominant Reef / 1500g Total System

08/27/2014, 06:52 PM	#11
buildinboats Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Shelter Island, NY Posts: 369	Be careful what you wish for. My tank is being overrun by shrooms and they are not easy to remove. I'm thinking about building a miniature power washer to use in the tank to cut the shrooms down!

08/27/2014, 09:34 PM	#12
ChallengedOne Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 143	I can't keep shrooms either in a 20gal standard with a kessil a 150... Just dsnt happen and I've given up ...

08/28/2014, 06:37 PM	#13
fishchef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,222	I used to have a lot of mushrooms, but I had some issues that were attributed to high PO4 and NO3. My PO4 stays around .04 to .19 and my NO3 10/25 ppm. I run 4 bulb T-5's. All my mushrooms are gone and some leathers. All my LPS, Clams, and some leathers have been around for years.