Day 71 Fallow

shesacharmer · 10/15/2014, 09:07 AM

Just had to share my excitement to see the number 71 on my calendar today. I can hardly wait to add my fish back to my display tomorrow after 72 days absence to eradicate ICH.

If you aren't using a QT and get Ich in your display you are going to be heartbroken by the losses and the extended fallow period. Keeping all your fish in QT for such an extended period is not easy and it's not fun.

Please people, believe me, setting up a simple QT is so much easier and cheaper than replacing your livestock.

Is it tomorrow yet???

thegrun · 10/15/2014, 10:30 AM

We all know the proper procedures, but it is so tempting to cut corners! Until you experience a disease first hand it’s hard to understand the how bad the emotional strain of dealing with the results can truly be.

shesacharmer · 10/15/2014, 07:25 PM

In my defense, I did not know better when I got my tank. I never had a QT for my freshwater fish...but wish I had this time...it's an eye opener starting a SW tank. I had NO IDEA how important it was and hope that some new people will learn faster than I did.

kelrn98 · 10/15/2014, 07:38 PM

That's great. Did all of your fish make it through the fallow period in QT?

Joe Cool · 10/15/2014, 08:01 PM

Congrats! My tank is only on day 8 being fallow so I have a little ways to go.

W1ngz · 10/15/2014, 09:03 PM

Congrats on the patience and discipline to take it the whole 72 days! How tempting it must have been after 60 days to risk it...

tmz · 10/15/2014, 10:08 PM

Good luck. I went through it years ago. It's fun to buy a fish and put them right in the tank but not for long in most cases.

This thread may be of interest for future additions:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...and+quarantine

JoelA7 · 10/16/2014, 12:04 AM

Day 68 here. I think I'll wait until day 73. ;-)

All seriousness, from what I can tell from reading the prevalence of disease is higher now than it was 15 years ago. Or maybe it's my imagination.

Nina51 · 10/16/2014, 05:10 AM

congrats on your patience! hope everything goes well with adding your fish back in.

oh and hey, IT'S TOMORROW!!!

tmz · 10/16/2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelA7

Day 68 here. I think I'll wait until day 73. ;-)

All seriousness, from what I can tell from reading the prevalence of disease is higher now than it was 15 years ago. Or maybe it's my imagination.

I don't know;I hope not. Maybe more folks are sensitive to it now ,reporting it and treating it . Those would would be a good things.

shesacharmer · 10/16/2014, 09:02 AM

I woke up at 5 a.m. I was so excited but had to wait until 7 a.m. for the lights to come on and feed the fish their last meal in QT. I lost my Flame Angel in QT early on. I had already put the tank through 8 weeks fallow and it was not long enough because the fish got sick again. So at this point my fish have been out of the tank longer than they were ever in it. It's been frustrating but I believe because of it I learned a great deal more about my coral.

Nina51 · 10/16/2014, 10:48 AM

ah, yes, the ole "silver lining".

sorry you lost your angel. do you think qt was just too stressful or did ich get him in the end?

shesacharmer · 10/16/2014, 11:37 AM

I think the Ich took out the Angel. They seem to me to be a little on the fragile side and TTM was too much in it's weakened state. I have a new one in TTM now which will go into the QT on Tuesday.

gone fishin · 10/16/2014, 02:40 PM

Congrats on sticking with your QT and fallow regimen. Your reefing enjoyment will be much better not having to worry about illness.

bryn.sessums1 · 10/16/2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shesacharmer

I think the Ich took out the Angel. They seem to me to be a little on the fragile side and TTM was too much in it's weakened state. I have a new one in TTM now which will go into the QT on Tuesday.

I lost a flame angel in QT to ich. I agree they don't have great ability to survive it.

cloak · 10/16/2014, 10:43 PM

scratch...

Just checking the prognosis.

shesacharmer · 10/17/2014, 07:36 AM

All the fish in the DT seem to be doing fine, exploring and defining their territories. The One Spot seems to be having the most trouble adapting, of course, ducking in and out of hidey holes; in and out of his pajamas. They are the most stressed fish I've ever seen and if this one succumbs I won't replace it. Only two more flips for the fish in TTM and they look great and are eating.

foundnemo11 · 10/18/2014, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shesacharmer

Just had to share my excitement to see the number 71 on my calendar today. I can hardly wait to add my fish back to my display tomorrow after 72 days absence to eradicate ICH.

If you aren't using a QT and get Ich in your display you are going to be heartbroken by the losses and the extended fallow period. Keeping all your fish in QT for such an extended period is not easy and it's not fun.

Please people, believe me, setting up a simple QT is so much easier and cheaper than replacing your livestock.

Is it tomorrow yet???

Same thing happened to me when i first started. I still don't at but I have all of the fish I need so I guess I beat it.

While waiting for ich to die out I just did upgrades to my equipment and stuff.

shesacharmer · 10/18/2014, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by foundnemo11

Same thing happened to me when i first started. I still don't at but I have all of the fish I need so I guess I beat it.

While waiting for ich to die out I just did upgrades to my equipment and stuff.

Fish can harbor Ich in their gills where it's not visible. If they live in an appropriate environment, stress free, with a good diet they can live a pretty normal life even though they are still sick. But if anything happens to stress the fish, or you add a new fish, some or all of the fish can break out again and it's likely that at least some might die.

I'm glad you are having good luck with it. I really wanted to get the Ich out of my display and time will tell if I was successful. If I messed it up...I doubt that I will go fallow again.

foundnemo11 · 10/18/2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shesacharmer

Fish can harbor Ich in their gills where it's not visible. If they live in an appropriate environment, stress free, with a good diet they can live a pretty normal life even though they are still sick. But if anything happens to stress the fish, or you add a new fish, some or all of the fish can break out again and it's likely that at least some might die.

I'm glad you are having good luck with it. I really wanted to get the Ich out of my display and time will tell if I was successful. If I messed it up...I doubt that I will go fallow again.

I forget but I think it's like a month and am half or something with no host for it to die. It worked for me. Just had my cleanup crew in the tank.

As for quarantine I did not really have a good place for a qt tank at my old house so I just winged it. Luckily everything was good and still is.

shesacharmer · 10/18/2014, 09:57 AM

I ran the tank fallow for 8 weeks after putting the fish through TTM and as soon as I put the fish back in the tank they got sick again. 8 weeks was not long enough without a fish host.

10/15/2014, 09:07 AM	#1
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	Day 71 Fallow Just had to share my excitement to see the number 71 on my calendar today. I can hardly wait to add my fish back to my display tomorrow after 72 days absence to eradicate ICH. If you aren't using a QT and get Ich in your display you are going to be heartbroken by the losses and the extended fallow period. Keeping all your fish in QT for such an extended period is not easy and it's not fun. Please people, believe me, setting up a simple QT is so much easier and cheaper than replacing your livestock. Is it tomorrow yet??? __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...

10/15/2014, 07:25 PM	#3
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	In my defense, I did not know better when I got my tank. I never had a QT for my freshwater fish...but wish I had this time...it's an eye opener starting a SW tank. I had NO IDEA how important it was and hope that some new people will learn faster than I did. __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...

10/15/2014, 07:38 PM	#4
kelrn98 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Biloxi, MS Posts: 856	That's great. Did all of your fish make it through the fallow period in QT? __________________ ~Kelly~ Current Tank Info: 96x24x30 -300g mixed reef: 75g sump, 35g fuge, 2x MP60, 4x Radion Pros, reef octopus X5000 skimmer, way too much LR and a few fish

10/15/2014, 09:03 PM	#6
W1ngz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 295	Congrats on the patience and discipline to take it the whole 72 days! How tempting it must have been after 60 days to risk it... __________________ 75 Gal., bean animal drain, 80lbs of rock, 1" of crushed coral and aragonite mix and a pair of 850 Koralias. 25 gal. sump, Syncra 3 return, Eshopps PSK-150 skimmer and 2 150W heaters.

10/15/2014, 10:08 PM	#7
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	Good luck. I went through it years ago. It's fun to buy a fish and put them right in the tank but not for long in most cases. This thread may be of interest for future additions: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...and+quarantine __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

10/15/2014, 10:30 AM	#2
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	We all know the proper procedures, but it is so tempting to cut corners! Until you experience a disease first hand it’s hard to understand the how bad the emotional strain of dealing with the results can truly be.

10/15/2014, 08:01 PM	#5
Joe Cool Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Deerfield Beach, FL Posts: 294	Congrats! My tank is only on day 8 being fallow so I have a little ways to go.

10/16/2014, 12:04 AM	#8
JoelA7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,056	Day 68 here. I think I'll wait until day 73. ;-) All seriousness, from what I can tell from reading the prevalence of disease is higher now than it was 15 years ago. Or maybe it's my imagination. __________________ New 48x24x26.25 w Precision Marine R30 sump, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, 2@Vertex 1.5L reactors for carbon & phosban, GEO Ca reactor w Aquarium Plants regulator. 2 MP40's 2@Radions. #120 live rock & #12

10/16/2014, 05:10 AM	#9
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	congrats on your patience! hope everything goes well with adding your fish back in. oh and hey, IT'S TOMORROW!!! __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

10/16/2014, 09:02 AM	#11
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	I woke up at 5 a.m. I was so excited but had to wait until 7 a.m. for the lights to come on and feed the fish their last meal in QT. I lost my Flame Angel in QT early on. I had already put the tank through 8 weeks fallow and it was not long enough because the fish got sick again. So at this point my fish have been out of the tank longer than they were ever in it. It's been frustrating but I believe because of it I learned a great deal more about my coral. __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...

10/16/2014, 10:48 AM	#12
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	ah, yes, the ole "silver lining". sorry you lost your angel. do you think qt was just too stressful or did ich get him in the end? __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

10/16/2014, 11:37 AM	#13
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	I think the Ich took out the Angel. They seem to me to be a little on the fragile side and TTM was too much in it's weakened state. I have a new one in TTM now which will go into the QT on Tuesday. __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...

10/16/2014, 02:40 PM	#14
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Congrats on sticking with your QT and fallow regimen. Your reefing enjoyment will be much better not having to worry about illness. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

10/16/2014, 10:43 PM	#16
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	scratch... Just checking the prognosis.

10/17/2014, 07:36 AM	#17
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	All the fish in the DT seem to be doing fine, exploring and defining their territories. The One Spot seems to be having the most trouble adapting, of course, ducking in and out of hidey holes; in and out of his pajamas. They are the most stressed fish I've ever seen and if this one succumbs I won't replace it. Only two more flips for the fish in TTM and they look great and are eating. __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...

10/18/2014, 09:57 AM	#21
shesacharmer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,241	I ran the tank fallow for 8 weeks after putting the fish through TTM and as soon as I put the fish back in the tank they got sick again. 8 weeks was not long enough without a fish host. __________________ 75 gal, LR w/refugium, 79 deg, PH 8.0, sg 1.025, amm 0/nit 0/nit 0, Calcium 420, dKH 8.3, mag 1300, Phos 0 Current Tank Info: A work in progress...